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re: Bayer/Monsanto Roundup verdict: $300 million

Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:02 pm to
Posted by Folsom
Folsom
Member since Mar 2006
3309 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:02 pm to
Yep. The chemical cabal and pharmaceutical cabal are the most hidden to Americans right now.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:05 pm to
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We cannot survive as a society without roundup.


USDA pays farmers each year to not sell their crops. I'm pretty sure we can all find food if Round-up were to disappear.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36748 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:07 pm to
Good
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67296 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:12 pm to
I'm usually a pro business guy, but seriously, f&%k Monsanto. I'm concerned about the legal precedents this could set, but you know the saying: Bad facts make Bad Law.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50284 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:14 pm to
Monsanto very well may have cooked the books for their safety data. More light will hit the subject mow.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67296 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:20 pm to
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Monsanto very well may have cooked the books for their safety data. More light will hit the subject mow.



Exactly. The issue is that an unfavorable outcome for Monsanto in this case could have a "slippery slope" impact on countless other companies whose products have much more tenuous correlations with cancer rates than does RoundUp!. Monsanto's coverup could f&%k a lot of other businesses that did nothing wrong while enriching and emboldening trial lawyers. Like I said, f&%k Monsanto, but there could be some serious unintended consequences of them losing this lawsuit.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:21 pm to
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Glysophate is considered a probable carcinogen by the WHO. You probably shoudnt be putting Roundup in your bubble baths, but there has been no proof that reasonable exposure causes cancer


That^++
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:21 pm to
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At least in this first trial, the causal relationship between the cancer and glyphosate was proven.


Wrong.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:23 pm to
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This company has poisoned the earth and us at a rate that you will never understand. Cancer rates, ADHD, Alzheimers, Autism, Birth Defects, etc. etc. etc. are directly proportional to the use of Roundup. The product needs to be banned world-wide.


Total bullshite.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:25 pm to
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they will sue the shite out of you.


Other than that dork in Canada who tried to bilk them out of money...who have they sued?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:26 pm to
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That’s what the farmer claimed to the media, then when he went to court it came out that 95% of his field was Monsanto seed. That’s not cross pollination. That’s deliberate theft.



That^.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
38017 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:26 pm to
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This is cosmic karma for Monsanto screwing with small farmers and bankrupting them for patent violations.

Amen ... ain't karma kickbacks a bitch.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:30 pm to
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We didn’t starve before Roundup


How many "we's" were there then?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31615 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:31 pm to
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:34 pm to
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The absurdity of granting a patent on a fricking seed.


Does that patent apply to only that original DNA code...as soon as there is a genetic variant, with unique properties, does that void the conditions of that specific patent??
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31615 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:36 pm to
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I'm pretty sure we can all find food if Round-up were to disappear.


Maybe for a year. No bullshite either. We cannot feed the world's population without herbicides...period.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:37 pm to
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USDA pays farmers each year to not sell their crops. I'm pretty sure we can all find food if Round-up were to disappear.


Ummm...are they using Roundup to achieve those yield levels?
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
3968 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 9:04 pm to
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Your assertion that the claim is unproven is incorrect. At least in this first trial, the causal relationship between the cancer and glyphosate was proven.


How is it not correct? Monsanto was hit with a judgment because they could not prove that their product did not cause this mans cancer. That’s not how it should work. Outside of living in Nagasaki circa 1945, how do you prove what one factor causes cancer? You can’t.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50284 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 9:07 pm to





Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15362 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 9:20 pm to
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The absurdity of granting a patent on a fricking seed.


This just shows me how extremely stupid you are. This isnt just some seed. Millions of dollars of research and development goes into creating GMO's. If you don't think a company should be able to profit off their hard work then you are an idiot. There is good reason why countries with strong proprietary protection laws breed innovation.
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