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Study Finds Increased Incarceration Has Marginal-to-Zero Impact on Crime
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:57 am
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:57 am
Believe this or not?
https://eji.org/news/study-finds-increased-incarceration-does-not-reduce-crime
Over the past two decades, 19 states have successfully decreased both imprisonment and crime rates, using crime prevention, alternative-to-incarceration, and community corrections approaches. Vera reports that the state with the largest drop in incarceration rates (New Jersey, with a 37 percent decrease between 2000 and 2015) also saw a 30 percent decrease in crime rates during this period. West Virginia, with the largest increase in incarceration rates (83 percent), experienced a 4 percent increase in crime rates. Indeed, only four states in this period experienced increases in crime rates, and all four also saw increased incarceration rates.
https://eji.org/news/study-finds-increased-incarceration-does-not-reduce-crime
Over the past two decades, 19 states have successfully decreased both imprisonment and crime rates, using crime prevention, alternative-to-incarceration, and community corrections approaches. Vera reports that the state with the largest drop in incarceration rates (New Jersey, with a 37 percent decrease between 2000 and 2015) also saw a 30 percent decrease in crime rates during this period. West Virginia, with the largest increase in incarceration rates (83 percent), experienced a 4 percent increase in crime rates. Indeed, only four states in this period experienced increases in crime rates, and all four also saw increased incarceration rates.
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:01 am to Big_Sur
quote:Of course. This has been known in the field for years. I mentioned it in another thread just the other day about New York.
Believe this or not?
I think it's actually likely that prison breeds criminal behavior. We know that the drug trade flourishes in prison. And given just how punitive all aspects of the system are for ex-cons, recidivism is very likely.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:01 am to Big_Sur
All I know is that study after study of who's committing the crimes shows that it's a very small percentage of the population who commit most of the crimes. Seems to me that if those people are locked away, then crime should decrease.
You can still do your community policing and other preventative things, but locking up career criminals seems to me to be a no-brainer.
You can still do your community policing and other preventative things, but locking up career criminals seems to me to be a no-brainer.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:02 am to Big_Sur
The authors of this study should invite convicts into their homes.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:02 am to Big_Sur
So in essence, they leave the criminals to take care of other criminals instead of incarceration leaving a vacuum that many criminals try to fill. Makes sense. Looks like that's what they are trying to accomplish in Chicago. Criminals tried to remove 70 other criminals just this past weekend.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:05 am to Big_Sur
Actually it does. Mass incarceration in the early 90s had a profound affect on vpcrime rates.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:06 am to Big_Sur
I could have told you the results of that study the second I clicked on the link and saw the website it came from.
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 11:07 am
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:08 am to Big_Sur
Prisons allow too much prisoner interaction which breeds more antisocial behavior.
Prisons should be largely solitary confinement with minimal prisoner interaction.
Prisons should be largely solitary confinement with minimal prisoner interaction.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:08 am to Big_Sur
What I would buy is to see recidivism rates for previous offenders who were offered alternative-to-incarceration programs. To me, that is where the true results will be found.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:10 am to Big_Sur
Shoot em. Save money. Big impact on crime.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:10 am to Big_Sur
quote:Without knowing the details of the above these statistics are pretty meaningless.
using crime prevention, alternative-to-incarceration, and community corrections approaches
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:35 am to Big_Sur
All I know is of someone commits a crime and is in prison that person wont be commuting any further crimes while they are in the clink, so society is safer.
Hell, many convicts are probably on government assistance while they are out robbing, stabbing, and stealing. So the cost of imprisoning them is offset by their not receiving any housing, obamaphone and EBT.
That is a win\win.
Hell, many convicts are probably on government assistance while they are out robbing, stabbing, and stealing. So the cost of imprisoning them is offset by their not receiving any housing, obamaphone and EBT.
That is a win\win.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:56 am to Big_Sur
Incarceration has little to do with discouraging criminals from committing the initial crime.
The important thing is keeping them off the streets, making them pay penance, and hopefully not being repeat offenders
The important thing is keeping them off the streets, making them pay penance, and hopefully not being repeat offenders
Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:56 am to Big_Sur
bullshite
Posted on 8/7/18 at 12:32 pm to Big_Sur
Prison is worthless unless you're looking at people that need to stay in there for 20 years or more. I'm all for hand and finger lopping for thieves. For dumbass dopers I'm all for giving them what they want for free.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 12:59 pm to Big_Sur
They don’t commit crime while locked.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:25 pm to Big_Sur
quote:
Vera reports that the state with the largest drop in incarceration rates (New Jersey, with a 37 percent decrease between 2000 and 2015) also saw a 30 percent decrease in crime rates during this period.
Maybe the decrease in crime led to the decrease in incarceration?
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 1:26 pm
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