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re: Orgeron deserves time to prove himself

Posted on 7/28/18 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 1:30 pm to
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There is a reason transfers and 5 stars are coming to LSU.


This isn't anything new. LSU has been landing transfers and 5 star recruits long before o became the head coach.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 1:41 pm to
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Based on what I saw....not every game.


Based on what I saw last year, neither did o's.

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But you can keep kidding yourself and toting that torch.


That sounds like what the o-fans are doing.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10678 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 1:43 pm to
The article is 100% propaganda. No question.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10678 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 2:10 pm to
We’ll see
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10713 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 3:06 pm to
I love people claiming O fixed his error with firing Canada and acting like Canada’s offense was so complex when in reality it wasn’t at all. It just used a lot of presnal movement to try and get the defense off balance at the start and in mismatches.

Hell even several players were staring it was the easiest offense they’d ever had to learn. those darn anti-O liars!

Furthermore, he made multiple poor hires including Mickey Joseph, not having a special teams dedicated coach (ie someone that had pet of their job as that), hired a failed special team la coordinator for this upcoming season that was an analyst for our epically awful special teams last year. Not to mention, hiring his buddy Robinson to coach running backs where LSU took a step back outside of one player.

In the end, he’s failed a ton including depleting top tier depth at our strongest positions historically the past decade in RB and CB because of poor recruiting a strategy.

There are a lot of reasons to have lack of faith and belief in O and relying on a recruiting class that 1) hasn’t signed anything yet and 2) that could be lost if a season like last year or worse happens is pretty myopic.
Posted by xraytiger
Colorado
Member since Jan 2005
689 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 3:12 pm to
You serious Clark? You think O depleted the depth at RB and DB. In one season? Give me a break. Don’t say...but he was recruiting coordinator! One season as RC and I’m sure Miles had something to do with recruiting. If O was head coach and Miles recruiting coordinator, you would be blaming Coach O for it. We don’t have to blame anyone quite yet, season has started.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 3:18 pm to
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You can make a case that each season is its own entity. I just see LSU football led by a man that has displayed a pattern of questionable decision making, mismanaging his staff, and leading a team that consistently is something less than the sum of its parts.


He'll either evolve and become a better coach or he won't be the coach at LSU long.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 3:19 pm to
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Glad to have someone so knowledgeable about another person's qualifications.

Crystal ball or tea leaves?


Resume.
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 3:59 pm to
Not a rebuild but 1/3 of the 22 that are on the field are transfers. MMmKay..
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 4:25 pm to
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Resume.



I hope you wouldn't use a resume from ten years ago.
Posted by CapperVin
Member since Apr 2013
10607 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 4:28 pm to
When you lose to Troy patience cease to exist. Now or never for the shrimp boat captain
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 4:28 pm to
Of course I would. Why wouldn't I? O is not some new college grad applying for his first position.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
68714 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 4:29 pm to
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Does anyone not see this happening right now? There is a reason transfers and 5 stars are coming to LSU





How is this any different than the last 15 years of LSU Football?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 4:34 pm to
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Furthermore, he made multiple poor hires including Mickey Joseph,


This gets glossed over but do people realize we have two coaches doing the job of one? We have Joseph who can't coach and Sullivan who can't recruit.

This is what I'm talking about. Great coaches make the most of every position coach because you only have so many of them. O uses two coaches for one position.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12545 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 5:03 pm to
Hard to argue with someone who brings so many facts and powerful analysis to this board.
Posted by AndrewD
Member since Oct 2013
712 posts
Posted on 7/28/18 at 5:40 pm to
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I don’t think that will happen because of those five games all are winnable and three are games we SHOULD win.


Sounds like a great plan to lose the first game.
Posted by GaytorHater703
Member since Nov 2004
2673 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 8:03 am to
O will get a statue after the year we are about to have
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10678 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:49 am to
While I think that the talent on this team is good enough to win the West, I am periodically frozen with fear knowing that LSU has, arguably, the worst coach in the SEC. Wow.
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