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What if Ed O is entering his prime? CBS article

Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted by L S Usetheforce
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:32 pm
Dennis Dodd CBS article

Interesting analysis of events
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 3:33 pm
Posted by LC412000
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:35 pm to
Suicide rate among Tiger Rant posters will reach an alltime high
Posted by 1999
Where I be
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:35 pm to
SECCG or bust.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66897 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:37 pm to
No one is arguing that last year was a good year for O

It wasn’t a good year for LSU

The 2 levels of expectations are the issue

It feels all O does is delegate.

At some point he has to do more himself.

Like why thefrick do we need Duke Tiley to get the teams head out of their asses?

getting our dicks kicked in by MSU wasn’t enough?
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 3:41 pm
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10792 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:40 pm to
If O brings back and sustains Championship-level LSU football, it would be the biggest coaching redemption story in college football history.

Who wouldn’t love that?
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 3:41 pm
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:42 pm to
I read that article yesterday and almost posted it. Then re-read it and chose not to.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:42 pm to
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Forget the hot seat: After saving LSU in 2017, what if Ed Orgeron is entering his prime?



“Saving” LSU???

Article not off to a good start.



quote:

"He spent the day," coach Ed Orgeron recalled. "He saw the LSU tradition the players weren't carrying on. He went to supper with them on Wednesday night, showed up at the first workout at 6 in the morning on Thursday, followed them, watched them in the meetings, watched the way dressed, watched the way they practiced.
"Then he said, 'Coach, let me have them.' He called them out."



Uh, Coach, who’s fault was it that they weren’t meeting, dressing, practicing in the “LSU tradition”???




quote:

Anyone consider that a lesser coach could have lost the locker room after the Troy defeat?



A lesser coach

Anyone consider a better coach wouldn’t have had the September that O did??

This is what any optimism boils down to, and it’s a lie.

We ran through a historically bad SEC after Troy, beating five teams that fired their coaches, beat a good Auburn team at home after going down 20-0 in the first quarter (take from that what you will), and list to Alabama never being closer than 2 TDs after the first quarter.


O is 1-4 or 2-5 against the quality teams since taking over whether you include bowl games or not.

SEVEN of his ten SEC wins are over teams .500 or worse in conference and SIX didn’t even make Bowl games.



For years we heard that LSU won because of talent and in spite of coaching.

How any rational observer could think we have seen anything different under O is beyond me.


That article is a joke. It offers no reasons for WHY O may be in his prime now, only asks WHAT IF??


fricking joke.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 4:00 pm
Posted by DustyDinkleman
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

What if Ed O is entering his prime?




Then we're going to have a good few seasons coming up. Why is this so hard to understand?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28538 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:05 pm to
On the one hand Ogeron does, I guess, deserve some credit for keeping the season from going completely off the rails after the Troy loss. He's right. Things could have gotten much worse. But couldn't you argue it was his fault (at least partially) that the season had to be "redeemed" in the first place?

It's kind of like celebrating how good of a guy/husband someone has become after cheating on his wife. The opportunity to redeem himself only occurred after HE knowingly chose frick up. Vs. Troy, Ed knowingly inhibited his OC, which in large part let to the loss and broken relationship between the coaches.

I'm an LSU fan. Thus, I'm hoping beyond hope that Ed becomes the greatest coach in LSU history. I think it would be a terrific story. But it seems like every article praising Ogeron is basically one of him redeeming himself from mistakes or bad circumstances. He learned from his mistakes and matured after being fired at Miami following and arrest for drunkingly head-butting a bar manager. He learned from his mistakes and matured after the Ole Miss disaster. He got the LSU job because he had learned from his past coaching mistakes. He redeemed himself in the 2017 season after interfering with the offense lead to an embarrassing loss vs. Troy.

Is that going to be the theme of his LSU tenure? It's going to take losing a game he shouldn't, to then take the steps to "save" the season? I don't know if there's a better recipe for inconsistency
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:07 pm to
From the article:

quote:

He is coming off a career year. It marked the first time he finished above .500 in a full season.


Let that sink in.

Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8436 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

In that sense, Orgeron was college football's sort-of loopy uncle. You'd trust him to watch the kids for an afternoon but not into the next day.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:12 pm to
LSU would win 9 games
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34521 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:23 pm to
Did anyone fricking proofread that shite? Good god there were typos in every paragraph almost
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7330 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

You know the perception: reliable assistant, sketchy head coach, fantastic recruiter, used to rip his shirt off.


This was spot on...

Also..

quote:

Orgeron was college football's sort-of loopy uncle. You'd trust him to watch the kids for an afternoon but not into the next day.



Time will tell. If he is very successful...there should be a movie made.

Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9049 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:36 pm to
If he can recruit at a high level in all positions (specially QB) he is as good as any other coach.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:57 pm to
All of this “O is possibly amazing” chatter is nice. I just don’t want to hear any excuses this year. None.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7970 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 6:23 pm to
I wasnt a fan of the O hire and still have doubts but the always negs on here are just like the skyscreamers in politics. I hope he does exceptionally well just so all these cocksuckers eat crow for along time, on top of I’m an LSU fan.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 7:37 pm to
So I read that and now I have to wonder. Should Duke Riley have been given the HC job ahead of Ed????
Posted by jledet
Panhandle
Member since Jan 2008
4922 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 8:36 pm to
Miles gets fired for losing on the road to Wisconsin and a last second loss on the road at auburn...

A season later O gets his shite pushed in by mississippi state and loses at home to troy but O might be coming into his prime
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:05 am to
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You know the perception: reliable assistant, sketchy head coach, fantastic recruiter, used to rip his shirt off.


Used to?
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