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re: Question for the "legalize all drugs" crowd.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:11 am to bhtigerfan
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:11 am to bhtigerfan
Those who want to do drugs are already doing them. Those who do not are not. I don’t need a law to tell me not to do meth. If it’s legal it can be regulated to be free from dangerous contaminates, consumed in safe places, taken out of the hands of dangerous cartels, contribute to tax dollars, and move addicts from the criminal justice system to being treated with a medical problem for addiction. It also takes away a large part of the appeal for kids. Something being illegal, taboo, dangerous, and against the rules makes that thing cool for teenagers to try. Making it legal takes away that mistique.
Finally the overwhelming majority of opioid addicts didn’t jump into trying heroin. They started off as a regular person who was hurt in an auto accident, suffered a workplace injury, or sports injury and was prescribed an opioid-based pain killer following surgery. Then, by the time their prescription ran out, despite following the recommended dosage, they were hooked on the stuff and had to move to the black market to satisfy that addiction once their doctor would no longer refill their prescriptions. The prescription drug companies are nearly entirely to blame for the heroin epidemic in this country.
Finally the overwhelming majority of opioid addicts didn’t jump into trying heroin. They started off as a regular person who was hurt in an auto accident, suffered a workplace injury, or sports injury and was prescribed an opioid-based pain killer following surgery. Then, by the time their prescription ran out, despite following the recommended dosage, they were hooked on the stuff and had to move to the black market to satisfy that addiction once their doctor would no longer refill their prescriptions. The prescription drug companies are nearly entirely to blame for the heroin epidemic in this country.
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:12 am to blueboy
quote:quote:population = zero
the "legalize all drugs" crowd.
Present.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:12 am to bhtigerfan
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I can somewhat see the legalization of marijuana, but what about the hard drugs like heroin?
Every single drug should be legal. I have never taken an illegal drug in my life (I know I'm lame) and I have no desire to do so even if they were legal. However, I have no right to tell a consenting adult what they can, and cannot, do with their bodies considering it has no effect on me or a third party.
With that said, if someone overdoses on a previously illegal drug I don't think that we should spend medical resources to save them. They knew the risks when they began using.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:12 am to Hester Carries
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I don't think anyone who isnt already doing heroin would start doing heroin.
Why would anyone think that?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:14 am to tharre4
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Darwinism.
Will be funny when your kid is strung out under the freeway. IMO the legalize all drugs crowd are thinking of themselves and themselves only.
You think high profile CEO's and VP's of Fortune 500 companies are touting this?
Please convince me how legalizing heroin is a good idea. I'll gladly listen.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:15 am to kingbob
nm
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:16 am to bhtigerfan
What they fail to recognize is that it's a public safety issue. The "do what you want with your own body" is correct; however, the problems arise when people "doing what they want to their own bodies" are high and causing chaos and havoc on those around them as a result of the drugs, thus infringing on the rights and well being of others. Anyone who says this is not the case is either ignorant by lack of any experience or willfully so, and I bet it's the latter.
On top of that, the damage that is done to families is tremendous. Take away the horrible actions those on drugs do directly to others, they are also causing massive stress and terrible situations to families. Talk to anyone who has addicts in their family and you will see this is always the case. I have it in mine, and the damage is intense.
Freedom is not absolute once it becomes license.
On top of that, the damage that is done to families is tremendous. Take away the horrible actions those on drugs do directly to others, they are also causing massive stress and terrible situations to families. Talk to anyone who has addicts in their family and you will see this is always the case. I have it in mine, and the damage is intense.
Freedom is not absolute once it becomes license.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:18 am to Midget Death Squad
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The "do what you want with your own body" is correct; however, the problems arise when people "doing what they want to their own bodies" are high and causing chaos and havoc on those around them as a result of the drugs, thus infringing on the rights and well being of others
When drugs are dirty, expensive and illegal it causes Farrrr more trouble for society.
The biggest issue right now IMO is associated crimes such as theft to support a habit. Legalization would cut this down quite a bit.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:18 am to kingbob
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It also takes away a large part of the appeal for kids. Something being illegal, taboo, dangerous, and against the rules makes that thing cool for teenagers to try. Making it legal takes away that mistique
Yup. No kids were smoking weed like i thought they would be when i visited Amsterdam
Adults who do smoke only smoke hash with tobacco lol they think Americans are insane smoking "pure"
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:19 am to idlewatcher
quote:
Will be funny when your kid is strung out under the freeway
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The illegal nature of drugs isn't stopping anyone from using.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:19 am to SDVTiger
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Adults who do smoke only smoke hash with tobacco lol they think Americans are insane smoking "pure"
Definitely a different high. I liked it.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:21 am to Joshjrn
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Raises hand
In.
#metoo
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:21 am to bhtigerfan
nm
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The illegal nature of drugs isn't stopping anyone from using.
Wut? Of course it is. It's among many deterrents such as
- health concerns
- getting caught/prison time
- breakup of families
- addiction etc etc.
Just b/c it's accessible doesn't mean everyone is going out looking for an 8-ball of coke.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:21 am to bhtigerfan
Legalize it. Rather than this being the focus - the conversation needs to be centered around parents. And what in the fricking world makes you think laws stop high school kids from doing dope? It just makes them more expensive
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:22 am to TH03
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Yeah like tobacco and alcohol. Oh wait.
There is no perfect answer. I drink, but I don't use tobacco. But the negative impacts of both are pretty costly. I don't advocate banning those, but I also don't advocate making other substances equally as detrimental easier to get.
By your logic, we have an issue with the already legal chain migration system and lottery system, so why not let everybody in, right? I mean, let's just compound an issue because if we allow some of it, we have to allow all of it.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:22 am to jawnybnsc
makes money for prison owners.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:22 am to weagle99
quote:
A consenting, free adult should be able to do what he wishes with his body.
Agree in principle. But we live in an entitlement society so we have to pay for the consequences of these people’s free will.
No legalization until consequences arent paid for freely
That will never happen so no legalization.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:23 am to cwill
quote:When things become legal, they tend to become more accepted. So yes, I think herion use would explode.
The only thing stopping them is the law?
You don't think high school kids and others not so bright wouldn't say, "Hell, it's legal. It can't be that bad?"
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:23 am to Hester Carries
quote:
Alcohol and cigarettes are legal but not for high school kids.
And they still do it regardless of the law. It's all about availability. If there was as much heroin readily available for high schoolers like pot is, then common sense tells us there would be more heroin use in hs.
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