re: Spurs rookie Lonnie Walker: ‘Will never celebrate 4th of July. Know your history’

Good thing this isn’t that time, and hasn’t been for quite some time

1775 The slave population in the colonies is nearly 500,000. In Virginia, the ratio of free colonists to slaves is nearly 1:1. In South Carolina it is approximately 1:2. 1775 Georgia takes action against slave importation.

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Understand, that for black people. There was no independence on July 4, 1776. We were still enslaved.

I have no problem celebrating the 4th. But I also understand that at the time, I wouldn't have been doing any celebrating.

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This is the mindset I was referencing in that other thread.

This isn’t a mindset of learning from the past. You are drowning yourself with it.

How does that view of the USA benefit you in any way?

ISO, all you are doing is holding yourself down by continuing to focus on ancestral problems.

You will very likely disagree, but nothing in 1776 involving slavery affects you now. The positives gained from the American Revolution sure gives you a boost though.

How is it that people can’t focus on the positives?

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Understand, that for black people. There was no independence on July 4, 1776. We were still enslaved.

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And my family was still back in Germany mostly and would remain so for another 100 years.

And yet, as an American born in 1970 and living in 2018, I can look back at how monumental July 4, 1776 was to my ultimate future...and yours.

Someone doesn't want to celebrate it, fine...same goes for any holiday. Talking shite about it as if to do otherwise makes one an Uncle Tom is simply idiotic.

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Understand, that for black people. There was no independence on July 4, 1776. We were still enslaved.

I have no problem celebrating the 4th. But I also understand that at the time, I wouldn't have been doing any celebrating.

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People like you are dumb.

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We were still enslaved.

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You were never a slave, shut up.

ETA: Almost at the same time TH

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Understand, that for black people. There was no independence on July 4, 1776. We were still enslaved.

I have no problem celebrating the 4th. But I also understand that at the time, I wouldn't have been doing any celebrating.

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I think this is fair. Slavery started as soon as people started settling here.. In the 1600s.

The Declaration of Independence didn't apply to blacks, otherwise; slavery would not have been allowed. Then even after slaves were freed, black people didn't have the same opportunities.

Anyone who is not black... If you were black.. let's say in the 1960s, when the military started drafting people to fight in Vietnam. would you have been okay with going fight for a country that didn't treat you as an equal? I completely understand this post..

With that said, this country continues to evolve. As a result of slavery, there are still high levels of poverty and uneducation in black communities, but today everyone has the same opportunity to get an education and work their way out of poverty. And with had work and a goal, anyone can gain wealth.. And it is the Declaration of Independence that allows everyone to have the opportunity.

You can't forget history. It helps to understand the present, but on the 4th.. Celebrate the present.. Because today, we are all free.

You obviously were not enslaved and now enjoy more benefits in this country than most.Slaves came to this country from all over the world not just Africa but it seems only certain ones refuse to get past something that happened 200 years ago.Race relation will never get better in this country because of this.