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How many people here are personally pro-choice but oppose RvW based on state’s rights?

Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51916 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:19 pm
Curious to see how small a minority I fall into
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:26 pm to
My problem is that the right to an abortion can’t be conjured from the constitution therefore it should be handled at the state level.

Roe V Wade is just another exploitation of the vaguely written 14th amendment.

The left has bastardized the 14th for their causes ad nauseum.


Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:27 pm to
No... if it's really her body and her choice then I want to see her selling that pussy
Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:28 pm to
Legally
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:32 pm to
So, I can’t see a possible argument where casual abortion, as in mother’s life isn’t in danger, can ever be morally justified. So if we’re to have a vote on it, I’d vote against it. However, tons of fricked up shite in society we deem acceptable from a legal standpoint, such as infidelity, so as a caveat of democracy if our local governing body says it’s OK based on popular consensus, I accept it and spend my whole dwelling on the immoral implications of it.
That all said, it is a states rights issue as deemed by the 10th amendment of the US Constitution and Roe v Wade has always been illegitimate!
Posted by Deesgnutz
On some ho
Member since Jun 2018
38 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:33 pm to
I just don't think that women have the ability to make such an emotional decision. I support abortions in certain circumstances but not with women making the decision.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:33 pm to
While not delicately put, you are getting to the heart of the matter.

If the 14th Amendment gives the right to exterminate a pregnancy and kill a potential human being under the premise that the government cannot intrude on what a person can do with their own body, why is that limitation on intrusion limited to abortion?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99185 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:34 pm to
Kinda.

Pro life, but think it's state's rights.

So a smaller number than you.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:37 pm to
State issue, just like education, unions and marriage. Feds need to stick to national defense and border protection.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51916 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:37 pm to
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I just don't think that women have the ability to make such an emotional decision. I support abortions in certain circumstances but not with women making the decision.



This is such a shitty comment that I hope it’s trolling.



If not....congrats fricker! You are the living embodiment of the boogeyman the left loves to refer to.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23366 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:38 pm to
I respect the supreme courts decision
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:38 pm to
Count me in the pragmatist camp.

I'm moderately pro choice with limits that value life but I absolutely support Roe v Wade and opposed getting rid of it because it will incite the left and alienate independents and the suburbs that conservatives need to win elections.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:40 pm to
This is indicative of how much bullshite exists.

The Second Amendment clearly says that the right of the people to bear arms as a Federal right shall not be infringed yet states and municipalities infringe on the right to bear arms all over the country.

Yet, something that is not even remotely mentioned in the constitution is somehow sacrosanct and can’t be touched.

frick that craziness.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111617 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:41 pm to
I’m not pro RvW. But I believe it should be a state-level question.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:43 pm to
Abortion should be banned in all states. Everyone who has one performed and the doctors who perform them should be charged with feticide.

Only time I can condone it is if the childbirth will kill the mother.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9654 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Count me in the pragmatist camp. 

I'm moderately pro choice with limits that value life but I absolutely support Roe v Wade and opposed getting rid of it because it will incite the left and alienate independents and the suburbs that conservatives need to win elections.


I agree. There are countless other issues that matter to me concerning SCOTUS.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:46 pm to
It should be a state issue just like murder is.

My question to the avid pro choices is when does the rights to liberty and life begin? when is a person's right and life protected by law? does the mere passage through the birth canal bestow those rights to protection?

If life is a mother's choice when does she lose that choice? in vitro? age 5? age 10? If she can kill her baby at 6 months in the womb why not at age 2 years?
Posted by Deesgnutz
On some ho
Member since Jun 2018
38 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

Volvagia


quote:

This is such a shitty comment that I hope it’s trolling. If not....congrats fricker! You are the living embodiment of the boogeyman the left loves to refer to.


Adds up. I'm sorry ma'am but women are to emotional to make such important decisions. Can you name me one that has? SWB? Crooked Hillary? I'm here to listen.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

State issue, just like education, unions and marriage.


Comparing the murder of children to education, unions, and marriage is disgusting.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:53 pm to
You're a disgusting moron. I didn't make it an equivalency, you did. They are all things the state should decide.
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