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re: New Study on Rising Suicide Rates Suggests Capitalism Is Quite Literally Killing Us

Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:28 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110067 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:28 pm to
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More importantly, does anyone believe that dictator/communist run nations will tell the truth about their suicide rates?

I bet we have no real numbers for Russia, China and Korea for starters.




It's actually somewhat believable to me that people who have way too much time and luxury on their hands commit suicide more. These people in shithole countries are just trying to stay alive and protect their kids. A macho man in the midwest who struggles with mental illness and gets by I think will think shite through a little more simply due to boredom, and realize the world is awful and they've failed to meet their personal expectations of themselves, obsess over it, and then go and pull the trigger.

7 out of 10 suicide victims in this country are white men. Let that sink in to where there's some truth to this.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 7:29 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
56018 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:33 pm to
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7 out of 10 suicide victims in this country are white men. Let that sink in to where there's some truth to this.

white male fragility is real, apparently

eta: in all seriousness, that's pretty pathetic
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 7:34 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35310 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:39 pm to
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gets by I think will think shite through a little more simply due to boredom, and realize the world is awful and they've failed to meet their personal expectations of themselves, obsess over it, and then go and pull the trigger.


This right here.

An idle mind is the worst thing possible for a depressed person.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8037 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:50 pm to
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It's actually somewhat believable to me that people who have way too much time and luxury on their hands commit suicide more. These people in shithole countries are just trying to stay alive and protect their kids. A macho man in the midwest who struggles with mental illness and gets by I think will think shite through a little more simply due to boredom, and realize the world is awful and they've failed to meet their personal expectations of themselves, obsess over it, and then go and pull the trigger.

7 out of 10 suicide victims in this country are white men. Let that sink in to where there's some truth to this.


I seem to recall some psychological phenomenon or something like that where happiness and mental illness tend to be founded on relative measures, rather than absolute criteria.

That is, if I have a net worth of $10MM, even though I am wealthier and live a better life than all but 0.0001% of the world and all but 0.0000001% of humans who've ever lived, I will be unhappy/depressed if I live in a community where everyone else was worth $50MM.

People in places like Cuba or Venezuela or most of Africa or wherever just simply can't really conceive of what life is like for the developed world, and many have no real point of reference (other than very remote and intangible things like movies or television shows) for the delta between the material well-being of themselves and the material well-being of an upper middle class family in the U.S. That's not the case at all for people who are struggling either economically or mentally or both in the U.S.

ETA: It's perhaps at least one reason why some of these really poor Central American countries have some of the highest happiness indexes in the world.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 7:52 pm
Posted by WAR TIGER
Death Valley
Member since Oct 2005
4092 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:03 pm to
I concede that point. Well stated.

And what you wrote is true. Not referring to midwest vs the West. There is a scary correlation to altitude and suicides.

So, I acknowledge your point.

And....don't tell me China and Korea don't hide their suicide rates. I know they do.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91235 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:08 am to
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out of 10 suicide victims in this country are white men. Let that sink in to where there's some truth to this.


White men do hard drugs at a higher rate than any other demographic. I've known personally 8 people who killed themselves, all had been dealing with drug/alcohol issues that caused their life to spiral out of control.
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