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re: Interesting Crystal Ball picks

Posted on 6/18/18 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by VolTiger13
New Orleans, La
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 2:00 pm to
Yeah, that's right. I thought I was forgetting someone, but was going blank and couldn't remember who it might be.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:05 pm to
Emery is going to go to MSU and it just goes to show you how poor this staff is at selling stuff in recruiting. They need to do a better job or they're going to lose quite a bit of talent in Louisiana this year.

There's absolutely no excuse for LSU to not have their pickings at RB. How fricking hard can it be to sell you'll be the next Guice, Faulk, Jeremy Hill, Fournette and the billion other long line of great RBs LSU had lmao? That and CB should be positions you never have to worry about just snatching blue chippers up every year. Yet, right now on the roster it's the 2 weakest positions and they're about to lose an elite homegrown talent to MSU of all places. Great Job O and company. Keep the borders up. We comin.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 3:07 pm
Posted by geauxtigs999
Member since Aug 2017
682 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 4:36 pm to
He's going to sign with MSU 6 months before signing day?

LSU didn't win anything with all of those RBs and CBs. Who cares whether it was our strongest position or weakest in the past? What does that have to do with the future?

Orgeron signed Chase and Marshall despite having basically nothing to sell in the passing game. Gets no credit for it basically bc the fan base doesn't realize how good Chase is (hint, watch highlights of him burning Surtain at the Opening last year.)

He got Burrow, Stingley commits in a few days. Front seven is in solid shape bc of guys he signed like Chaisson, Fehoko, Phillips. He missed on Surtain (who was an out of state player, but nonetheless a guy they had penciled into the class). Any other CB you're whining about from last cycle doesn't matter, as they wouldn't have helped this year.

Hopefully he gets Emery and Sopsher. If not, he better get a top 5 RB and DT in this class from elsewhere. But it's too soon for this panicing.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 4:46 pm
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
14973 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 5:27 pm to
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I don't give a crap about anything on paper. Won't matter come the season. The last recruiting class wasn't great bc we didn't sign an elite CB, but it will not be the worst in 15 years, I can tell you that. The recruiting sites besides 247 are lazy, so I don't care where they rated the class. And even 247 screwed the pooch on Louisiana last year, Shea said as much.
I disagree. The class had holes (CB, QB) and strategy (Goodrich, early signing period not managed well). However...
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Like I said, they have 6 months to get Emery or another homerun hitter at RB.
Cain is still in play and we have Davis committed. Of those 3 Emery is the only one that said things along the line, excuse or real, of wanting to be "the one and only guy".

If we were to get all 3, awesome. We need to get two of the three. So if we don't get Cain (and Emery goes to MSU) then there's reasons to gripe. It's not only too early in the process to gripe/melt/freak over Emery, there's other options out there additionally.
Posted by geauxtigs999
Member since Aug 2017
682 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 5:36 pm to
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I disagree. The class had holes (CB, QB) and strategy (Goodrich, early signing period not managed well).


The holes, the strategy, the everything was Surtain.

They thought they had him. They slow played Goodrich bc of that and bc they prioritized the front seven on defense, the WR position, and not letting Kelvin Joseph go to Bama. Maybe they signed one too many defensive linemen, but hard to say that considering the lack of depth there in the beginning of last season. And every DL they signed has talent to be good.

QB worked out great with Burrow. Some luck, but some good planning to keep that scholarship open (not give it to the Cal RB and not pass on him like Dan Mullen did.)

All the handwringing about Goodrich and strategy is hype. They thought they were getting Surtain and didn't care about Goodrich.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 5:38 pm
Posted by broadcaster
Maurepas
Member since Sep 2013
2687 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 5:38 pm to
U know Porter will be a hard worker and a good kid. Y’all remember the controversy I think he was doing interviews for the Super Bowl one year. when he said if his kids got a precipitation trophy he would throw it away. His kids would earn every Trophy they got.
Posted by ifyouonlyknew
Jackson,Mississippi
Member since Oct 2015
336 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:13 pm to
The staff is trying hard to get Emery on campus before that July date or at least get him to hold off on committing.We're not having much luck and we're running third on his list right now.

I just don't know how we're going to be able to overcome a few things here that just will never work in our favor.There have been a few things posted on the board about Emery the past few months that are simple not true and gave some folks the thinking that we were leading.The staff isn't giving up so we'll see.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 6:15 pm
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9964 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 7:04 pm to
If I had my pick and both players really wanted to be at LSU I’d choose Emery over Cain by a small margin.

However...Ty Davis is going to be a stud. Davis and Cain are close and already have chemistry off the field, so I think that combo is more likely than Davis/Emery.

In other words, I think Cain would look forward to playing with his boys Ty & Kardell, where as Emery may view Davis as just another dude taking carries.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 7:29 pm to
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There's absolutely no excuse for LSU to not have their pickings at RB. How fricking hard can it be to sell you'll be the next Guice, Faulk, Jeremy Hill, Fournette
Man, stop whining like a little baby. How many championships did we win with those rbs? O is clearly trying to create a passing offense. O is doing fine so far.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47368 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 10:22 pm to
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they have really sold him on being the workhorse there and the next Barkley


Sure, come be the workhorse in college so when you get to the pros, you’re worn the frick out.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10794 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:53 pm to
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People just have no clue how strong or not the RBs will be this year


Nor do these nay sayers have any clue of ust how good teh incoming recruiting class will be. They filled many needs and lost on a couple of playes they really wanted. That has happened in other years and the ones actually signed proved to be much better than the ones who went elsewhere.

Classic example, Jamal Adams over Hootie, Davon Godchaux over Willis. Look at how three stars Mo Claiborne and Tyrann Mathieu turned out.
Posted by geauxtigs999
Member since Aug 2017
682 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 12:59 am to
Bottom line is this offense will be built around CEH this year (who is a really good player), and then Chase and Marshall in 2019 and 2020. Those two are the future of the offense. You’ll have Burrow and then likely Brennan throwing to those two. That’s pretty good. Offense should be effective this year and then explosive in 2019/2020.

The question is who best compliments Chase and Marshall at RB. I think that guy is Emery, I think he’s fantastic. But the offense won’t be built around the RB like in the past, and Cain and Davis still can show that they’re elite players. Maybe one of them shows more elusiveness as a senior and becomes a 5*.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 1:02 am
Posted by ifyouonlyknew
Jackson,Mississippi
Member since Oct 2015
336 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:00 am to
We've been about even with State for 4 years now.We're a missed fg away from losing 3 of the last 4 to them.If Moorhead is the kind of OC they say he and Fitzgerald comes back 100% then we're not beating them this year either.They return everyone but two kids that skulldrug us a year ago.After this year then things could go back to normal depending on if Moorhead is legit or not.

Ole Miss was giving us a lot to handle but we've handled them the last two years and I don't see that changing this year either.We put them back in their place.
Posted by geauxtigs999
Member since Aug 2017
682 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 7:22 am to
Sure, if Rashard Lawrence, Ed Alexander, and Breiden Fehoko don’t play like last year, they’ll probably beat us. But MSU struggles throwing the ball, so we’ll stop their offense if those hosses are healthy. And it will be easier for LSU’s offense playing at home.

But I agree that the last four years against them are a nice illustration of the mediocrity of LSU’s program. Need to beat them by double digits this year. Need our WRs to make some big plays against a mediocre secondary.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:53 am to
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We've been about even with State for 4 years now.We're a missed fg away from losing 3 of the last 4 to them.If Moorhead is the kind of OC they say he and Fitzgerald comes back 100% then we're not beating them this year either.They return everyone but two kids that skulldrug us a year ago.After this year then things could go back to normal depending on if Moorhead is legit or not.


Ok, I'm bearish on Ed Orgeron as much as anyone, but this is some pussy arse pessimism. We were breaking in a new offense last year and had a ton of injuries, especially on the DL.

This year we play in our house with a stacked defense and a chip on our shoulder. Fitzgerald is coming off an injury and is not a good passer of the football, which will be become more evident in a Moorhead offense.

Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
74230 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:59 am to
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TheCaterpillar


Becoming a butterfly.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:02 am to
Woah Nelly...


I'm just saying comparing our game against MSU last year to this year is unfair. Neither team will be the same at all and its in our house.

They exploited a weakness last year that we won't have this year.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
74230 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:04 am to
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Woah Nelly...




Papillon
Posted by tiger nutz
Madison
Member since Oct 2005
917 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:38 am to
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We've been about even with State for 4 years now.

Only because Dan Mullen was calling plays. Mullen is a great QB developer(Urban Meyer gets credit for it when it has always been Mullen) and OC coordinator. MS State will not get better in the next 3 years and you will see a decline. Florida will get better so we better be ready for them.
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2503 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:46 am to
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Interesting Crystal Ball picks
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they have really sold him on being the workhorse there and the next Barkley


Sure, come be the workhorse in college so when you get to the pros, you’re worn the frick out.



In case no one has informed you , this is as much having these young kids egos stroked as anything. And who do you think has a better shot at the NFL , a proven workhouse or the 4th string back with limited touches ?
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