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re: Eagles' Zach Ertz slams Fox News over misleading anthem images
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:41 pm to ApexTiger
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:41 pm to ApexTiger
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I think you go regardless of political differences...
that's me
I would go no matter who it was just for the experience
but I'm not going to get angry if someone has a different opinion than me and doesn't want to go
thats childish
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:45 pm to ApexTiger
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what was the specific reason?
same reason the eagles players weren’t going to attend of course
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:46 pm to ApexTiger
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you don't think that's as disrespectful as taking a knee and not even knowing why you're taking a knee?
I personally don't see any of it as "disrespectful"
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:46 pm to ApexTiger
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why didn't the team want to come to the white house
please answer the question..
what is the reason?
Maybe because he called some of their colleagues "sons-of-bitches".
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but refuse the honor of going to the white house...racists
They don't call it the White House because white people.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:49 pm to Salmon
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I would go no matter who it was just for the experience
but I'm not going to get angry if someone has a different opinion than me and doesn't want to go
thats childish
but it's team invitation
it's a problem when a great number of the players decided not to make the trip
My point is, Eagles may have stood for the anthem, but they aren't really unified on the issue of country first.
When black players begin to speak out against the fatherless epidemic that leads to police profiling, I will quickly get on board and support that cause.
I will not support a protest against police when there is no accountability expected from the citizenship...
I have no issue with a person who wants to protest the President or the flag...
I only take issue with people who expect there not to be consequences when the protesting is done representing a business or team...
so players are looking at this individually which is fine, but I support Trump saying "ok fine, we won't have the Eagles, we will just sing the Anthem without them"
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:51 pm to ApexTiger
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but it's team invitation
so?
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it's a problem when a great number of the players decided not to make the trip
it's only a problem to Trump's ego
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I have no issue with a person who wants to protest the President or the flag...
you just said it was disrespectful
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:55 pm to Salmon
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I have no issue with a person who wants to protest the President or the flag...
you just said it was disrespectful
right, they have the right to be disrespectful...
so the President can pull his invitation in response to dissing the Presidency.
The Presidency is a symbol of our republic...
people can do what they want...and accept any consequences that may follow
I love Freedom of speech....but like all things it has boundaries
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:55 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Is this the guy that replaced don Henley?
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:56 pm to ApexTiger
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right, they have the right to be disrespectful...
Right. Not sure I implied otherwise. Just that believing an act is disrespectful generally implies you have an issue with the act.
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people can do what they want...and accept any consequences that may follow
I love Freedom of speech....but like all things it has boundaries
You are just speaking in platitudes now.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:58 pm to ApexTiger
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they aren't really unified on the issue of country first.
Jesus, fricking Christ, they're a bunch of barely-educated black liberals playing a fricking ball game.
You want to make it like they're all trying to apply for jobs with the Secret Service.
When I turn on the television to watch a bunch of black dudes from my town bashing in the heads of black dudes from another town, I don't give a frick how they are or are not trying to express their patriotism through unity with the rest of the nation under the flag. Next thing you know you people will be demanding the players be mic'ed up so we can hear if they're singing the anthem with the appropriate amount of sincerity.
"Hey, Johnson was mumbling through the 'broad stripes and bright stars' part, send his arse to the gulag, that traitorous son-of-a-bitch!"
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:00 pm to ApexTiger
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so the President can pull his invitation in response to dissing the Presidency.
President can absolutely do that.
Most of us are merely laughing at the manner in which he does it. And the emotionally-fueled responses on both sides about muh flag/ muh knees only increases the hilarity.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:03 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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esus, fricking Christ, they're a bunch of barely-educated black liberals playing a fricking ball game.
You want to make it like they're all trying to apply for jobs with the Secret Service.
When I turn on the television to watch a bunch of black dudes from my town bashing in the heads of black dudes from another town, I don't give a frick how they are or are not trying to express their patriotism through unity with the rest of the nation under the flag. Next thing you know you people will be demanding the players be mic'ed up so we can hear if they're singing the anthem with the appropriate amount of sincerity.
"Hey, Johnson was mumbling through the 'broad stripes and bright stars' part, send his arse to the gulag, that traitorous son-of-a-bitch!"
Calm down bro
take your attitude up with Colin K who started this mess, and a great majority of football fans who don't like the players protesting during the Anthem.
America is about being unified when it really matters.
It matters to the people in the armed services who are willing sacrifice their lives...so we can have freedom
so the players can act like they are unified at least during the anthem...which is my point, they acted all nice when the TV was on them during the season, but get an invite from the Orange Bastard, all hell needs to be broken out..
Trump didn't help himself when he said, "we should fire the SOB"...
but that's Trump, he does things his way..
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:04 pm to ApexTiger
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so the President can pull his invitation in response to dissing the Presidency.
That's not really why he did it.
He used the protest as an excuse to cancel his party so he could have all the ice cream to himself.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:06 pm to ApexTiger
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It matters to the people in the armed services who are willing sacrifice their lives...so we can have freedom
About as overstated as the quip about the military running in doors for colors so they don't need to stand and face the flag.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:08 pm to ApexTiger
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My point is, Eagles may have stood for the anthem, but they aren't really unified on the issue of country first.
When black players begin to speak out against the fatherless epidemic that leads to police profiling, I will quickly get on board and support that cause.
I will not support a protest against police when there is no accountability expected from the citizenship...
So much here.
1) nationalism is a plague and a tool used to control sheeple
2) police profiling and "broken window policing" started long before the single parent problem. It would be more accurate to say it started and was proliferated through profiling. Jim crow laws and systemic racism destroyed the black nuclear family.
3) Are you implying that the citizenry have a greater obligation to be accountable than the government employees charged with enforcing the law?
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:08 pm to steadytiger
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I don't give a rat's arse however they absence themselves from the act of respecting the Anthem. I don't care if they decide to feed a homeless child in the locker room while the Anthem is being played before the game they are making huge amounts of money. THEY ARE STILL DISRESPECTING THE COUNTRY!! Tell them no protest they are doing means anything. The one that would count, is to move your sorry arse to another country, which you can respect and love!
Get off your lawn
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:12 pm to ApexTiger
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America is about being unified when it really matters.
Did it ever fricking occur to you that maybe some black people just aren't feeling the unity - and that's what the fricking protests are all about?
Or, how about this, it doesn't matter DURING A FOOTBALL GAME.
You can't FORCE people to feel unity.
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It matters to the people in the armed services who are willing sacrifice their lives...so we can have freedom
Don't give me that bullshite, the armed forces haven't fought for AMERICANS' liberty since 1865. You think those boys dying in the mountains in Afghanistan are fighting for OUR liberty? Maybe that's what they signed up for, but that's not what the civilian 'leadership' is having them do.
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the players can act like they are unified at least during the anthem...which is my point
So your point is about being insincere. Got it - great point.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:13 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Nope. Only one market had a consistent decline trend from 2013 through 2015 with all other markets rebounding in 2015. The total market averaged only a 3% annual loss over those three years. The anthem kneeling controversy hit critical mass in 2016, where the NFL lost roughly 8% viewership in a single season, followed by the 2017 season where they dropped another 10%.
The NFL has publicly acknowledged that the anthem controversy was to blame and has taken public steps to address the issue.
Stop making shite up as if we aren't paying attention to the issue.
The NFL has publicly acknowledged that the anthem controversy was to blame and has taken public steps to address the issue.
Stop making shite up as if we aren't paying attention to the issue.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:15 pm to Salmon
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You are just speaking in platitudes now.
ok what do you want to unpack then?
what we do in the public eye is always followed by someone's opinion of what they can see from their vantage point. Fair or unfairly...that's the deal in the public eye.
I personally do not like people protesting or making political statements during their work week or "business hours."
that's my opinion... I am free to have it and many see as I do. A many fans didn't like Players protesting, with a knee which was intended to show respect...anything less than standing together was seen as disrespect. It's about perception...
Trump usually plays the role of responding to something or someone else...and that's the case here... The focus is on Trump's response
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:18 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Three of those are from the exact same moment and one is photo shopped, so in order to reinforce your insult you've effectively given evidence of Trump eating ice cream at least twice in his 70 years on earth.
that's a ton of post set-up work to fool exactly no one.
that's a ton of post set-up work to fool exactly no one.
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