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PFF Top 25 players under 25 years old
Posted on 5/28/18 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 5/28/18 at 2:03 pm
Saints have 3 players on the list
PFFs 25 under 25
Saints also had a future 10 in Marcus Williams
PFFs future 10
The foundation has been laid. It's time to send Brees out with another title.
PFFs 25 under 25
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Part B’ of the aforementioned rookie duo, Lattimore was so sticky in coverage in 2017, targeting him was only a slightly more lucrative opportunity than spiking the ball into the ground and certainly a more a risky one. Lattimore allowed a passer rating against of just 45.3 (third among cornerbacks) while ranking third in playmaker index, intercepting or breaking up 22.1 percent of the passes thrown his way.
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Kamara broke onto the scene as a third-round pick and had one of the more incredible rookie campaigns we have seen. Forcing a ridiculous 57 missed tackles on just 201 touches and averaging 3.83 yards after contact per carry, Kamara led all running backs in elusive rating with a mark of 108.5 – the highest elusive rating ever recorded for running backs with a minimum of 80 carries. Kamara immediately established himself as a mismatch nightmare in the passing game, leading all running backs in yards per route run at 2.84. To top off those two crazy accomplishments, his 90.2 overall grade in 2017 is the second-highest grade we’ve given to a rookie running back (Alfred Morris, 2012).
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The third Saints member of the 2017 NFL Draft class, Ramczyk immediately made his presence known ranking inside the top-10 among tackles as a rookie with an overall grade of 84.2. From Week 10 through the playoffs, he was arguably the best tackle in the league excelling as both a run-blocker and in pass protection. Outside of one hit surrendered, Ramczyk kept his quarterback completely clean of any pressure over his last eight games.
Saints also had a future 10 in Marcus Williams
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Williams capped his rookie campaign off on a bad note, missing an important tackle in the Divisional Round of the playoffs to spark a miracle Minnesota Vikings comeback win. However, Williams’ miss shouldn’t discredit what was a great regular season.
Williams finished the 2017 season with an 86.8 overall grade, the second-highest grade among all rookie safeties, tied for 11th among all safeties. The former Utah product ranked eighth among qualifying NFL safeties in tackling efficiency (15.6) during the regular season, as he missed just five tackles all year. In coverage, he ranked third in yards allowed per coverage snap (0.13) among qualifying safeties.
Williams’ final play of the 2017 season is, of course, a tough pill to swallow for both him and the Saints’ faithful. His route to redemption isn’t far off from the level of play he put forth a year ago, a tell-tale sign that he’ll likely bounce back quite quickly in 2018.
PFFs future 10
The foundation has been laid. It's time to send Brees out with another title.
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 5/28/18 at 3:08 pm to IIxxBREADxxII
Pretty cool that the Saints have so many players on this but they’ve got Mahommes in the future top 10 who didn’t start a game last season and Leonard Fournette was completely left off the list.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 3:38 pm to TDcline
A few of the PFF contributors don't grade Fournette favorbly.
They hated him being picked so high in last years draft
They hated him being picked so high in last years draft
Posted on 5/28/18 at 3:42 pm to TDcline
Yea, Fournette being left off is a head scratcher. He helped lead his run centric team to the final minutes of the AFC Championships game as a rookie and did not disappoint.
The NFL is definitely never lacking in the talent category EVER. Loads of young talent and I expect Davenport to be on a list similar to this next season.
The NFL is definitely never lacking in the talent category EVER. Loads of young talent and I expect Davenport to be on a list similar to this next season.
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 5/28/18 at 4:44 pm to IIxxBREADxxII
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Part B’ of the aforementioned rookie duo, Lattimore was so sticky in coverage in 2017, targeting him was only a slightly more lucrative opportunity than spiking the ball into the ground and certainly a more a risky one. Lattimore allowed a passer rating against of just 45.3 (third among cornerbacks) while ranking third in playmaker index, intercepting or breaking up 22.1 percent of the passes thrown his way.
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Kamara broke onto the scene as a third-round pick and had one of the more incredible rookie campaigns we have seen. Forcing a ridiculous 57 missed tackles on just 201 touches and averaging 3.83 yards after contact per carry, Kamara led all running backs in elusive rating with a mark of 108.5 – the highest elusive rating ever recorded for running backs with a minimum of 80 carries. Kamara immediately established himself as a mismatch nightmare in the passing game, leading all running backs in yards per route run at 2.84. To top off those two crazy accomplishments, his 90.2 overall grade in 2017 is the second-highest grade we’ve given to a rookie running back (Alfred Morris, 2012).
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The third Saints member of the 2017 NFL Draft class, Ramczyk immediately made his presence known ranking inside the top-10 among tackles as a rookie with an overall grade of 84.2. From Week 10 through the playoffs, he was arguably the best tackle in the league excelling as both a run-blocker and in pass protection. Outside of one hit surrendered, Ramczyk kept his quarterback completely clean of any pressure over his last eight games.
Saints also had a future 10 in Marcus Williams
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Williams capped his rookie campaign off on a bad note, missing an important tackle in the Divisional Round of the playoffs to spark a miracle Minnesota Vikings comeback win. However, Williams’ miss shouldn’t discredit what was a great regular season.
Williams finished the 2017 season with an 86.8 overall grade, the second-highest grade among all rookie safeties, tied for 11th among all safeties. The former Utah product ranked eighth among qualifying NFL safeties in tackling efficiency (15.6) during the regular season, as he missed just five tackles all year. In coverage, he ranked third in yards allowed per coverage snap (0.13) among qualifying safeties.
Williams’ final play of the 2017 season is, of course, a tough pill to swallow for both him and the Saints’ faithful. His route to redemption isn’t far off from the level of play he put forth a year ago, a tell-tale sign that he’ll likely bounce back quite quickly in 2018.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 4:55 pm to BRL79
frick, you don’t need the blue pill reading that shite.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 4:55 pm to TDcline
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they’ve got Mahommes in the future top 10
PFF also jizzed their pants over Baker Mayfield - apparently their algorithm doesn’t factor in Big 12 air raids against shite defenses every week.
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 5/28/18 at 5:36 pm to TH03
I think he was implying it was the equivalent of it
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:45 pm to Billy Mays
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PFF also jizzed their pants over Baker Mayfield - apparently their algorithm doesn’t factor in Big 12 air raids against shite defenses every week,
I remember watching the 1st half of Oklahoma-UGA and while Oklahoma/Mayfield started strong, I noticed in the 2nd quarter he was holding the ball longer. Basically when Georgia settled down (pass defense) wise Mayfield looked more ordinary.
course.. Oklahoma's RB ripped Georgia's D a new one so it's not like the onus was all on Mayfield.
I missed the 2nd half of the game
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:03 am to TDcline
Fournette might’ve been left off bc he looked like a 40 year old man in 8th grade
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:43 am to reo45
They value the passing game above all else. Fournette doesn't offer as much as other backs in that aspect.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:46 am to Billy Mays
He has their 2 highest graded seasons for college QBs since they started grading. This past season higher than the one before, while losing Westbrook, Mixon, and Perrine to the NFL.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:57 am to Gordon Hayward
I'm confused.
Does Fournette play for the Saints?
Does Fournette play for the Saints?
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:05 am to Hoodoo Man
This just shows how important high draft picks are though.
Sucks we only had a 1st and a late 3rd this past yr
Sucks we only had a 1st and a late 3rd this past yr
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:25 am to IIxxBREADxxII
Michael Thomas (born March 3, 1993) missed the list by less than two months...
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:09 am to 995webmaster
Man that was one insane draft
Posted on 5/29/18 at 1:26 pm to TDcline
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in the future top 10 who didn’t start a game last season and Leonard Fournette was completely left off the list.
Didn’t mahomes start and win the final game of the year?
Posted on 5/29/18 at 1:36 pm to TDcline
Pff looks at more than just total stats. I imagine Fournette's lackluster sub 4.0 ypc really hurt his case. He also didn't have to share many carries with someone else, much like Hunt.
What Kamara did with as "few" touches as he got is pretty unheard of.
What Kamara did with as "few" touches as he got is pretty unheard of.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 2:00 pm to reo45
Since almost everything of theirs is premium this one of the few explanations they have on him:
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Leonard Fournette’s numbers are also a concern, for similar reasons. He didn’t post a high rate of 20-plus-yard runs, but these runs did make up a significant percentage of his total yardage. Just two of his carries (0.7 percent of his total carries) make up 15.9 percent of his total rushing yardage. I got on my soapbox midway through the season and started ranting about a looming regression, after I felt fantasy owners were paying too high of a price for what I felt amounted to just two fluky 75-plus-yard runs. It turns out, I was right. If we strip out his two longest runs of the season, he falls from 18th-worst (3.88), to second-worst (3.29) in yards per carry — the largest drop among all qualifying running backs. As evident also by his below-average ranking in about all of the above statistics, Fournette’s 2017 was highly underwhelming, but his fantasy value was buoyed by two long runs, volume, and touchdowns
Posted on 5/29/18 at 2:27 pm to 1BamaRTR
PFF pretty much always has a good reason for their ratings.
People just don't want to hear it.
People just don't want to hear it.
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