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re: New Osteopathic Medicine School at ULM in Monroe approved

Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68720 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:51 pm to
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Then what is the point of the DO? Why not just have MDs?
Because not everyone can get into Medical School. DO is the safety school.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68527 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:51 pm to
This makes no sense

Not when there is an md program 90 minutes away

Baton Rouge needs an md, od, pharm d, ot,and pt school
Posted by HuckleBearer
Beauregard Parish
Member since Dec 2017
207 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:53 pm to
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We do? In a state of 4 million we need a fourth?


Don't forget the one opening in Lake Charles soon.
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3651 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:58 pm to
Having every residency be ACGME accredited is a done deal, it's just going to take another 2 years for all the site visits/paperwork/approval stuff to get done so 2020 is when 100% of the transition is supposed to be done.

DO schools are still accredited by COCA which either don't have a moratorium on number of programs or have easier accreditation standards than LCME. New DO schools are cash cows and seem to pop up every year
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7047 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:59 pm to
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Most DOs are indistinguishable from MDs.


We had to make an ER trip in Colorado a few years ago and it was a DO on duty that night. He took good care and everything went well.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68720 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:00 pm to
Never heard that? Name of school?
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:06 pm to
I attended ULM and can say for certain this scares the shite out of me.

Will not look for any doc who received is education at ULM. And if I see it on his/her wall, I'm out.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:14 pm to
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Lol you saying you wouldn't use a DO is kinda silly... You know they learn the same medicine, take the same standardized tests, and do the same residency training as MDs....

Most DOs are indistinguishable from MDs


Vast majority of patients wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17406 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:26 pm to
I graduated from ULM in 2006. I thought the school was great. And they have done nothing but improve since I left. I would have no problem sending my child there.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6501 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 8:47 pm to
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We had to make an ER trip in Colorado a few years ago and it was a DO on duty that night. He took good care and everything went well.



That makes perfect sense lol. Generally speaking, DOs are equally qualified and trained as MDs.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68527 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:06 am to
Don’t be a ****
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11494 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:32 am to
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Vast majority of patients wouldn't be able to tell the difference.


I am far more concerned with all these NPs getting online degrees. Seems like they are giving out NP degrees like candy these days.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21627 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:36 am to
That is odd. ULM doesn't have a med school. However, I always ask my nurse where they went to school. If they say ULM, they are very good. If they said any other school north of Alexandria, I worry. There is a HUGE difference in ULM nursing school and the rest - from experience.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32946 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 7:24 am to
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LSUHSC should be in BR not NOLA. Not everyone wants to up and move to Nola for med school. Monroe is a good place for med school no distractions like NOLA has.

This is fricking stupid. If the location (New Orleans versus Baton Rouge) is stopping you from going to Med School, then maybe Med School isn't for you.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29243 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:36 pm to
I have experience with the auburn location. Very nice building/resources with a lot of Out of state kids that are expected to stay in the the area. This will be a good thing for Monroe.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 10:37 pm
Posted by olemiss5931
Augusta, GA
Member since Apr 2012
2198 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:37 pm to
DOs are pretty equal when it comes to primary care specialties. The main problems DO faces are trying to get into competitive specialties such as most surgical subspecialties, derm, and some others. It is possible for them, but they face a tougher road. DOs definitely rank ahead of Caribbean grads though. Caribbean med schools are an absolute scam.

The argument about opening up more med schools to take care of the issue of the doctor shortage is so dumb. The problem is government funding for residency spots. There are thousands of students every year who get an MD, but do not match into a residency. Im about to be applying for residency spots this next cycle, and it is not a fun process.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
1433 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:47 pm to
Also going to a DO school generally puts you at a disadvantage because you don't have "home" residency programs. Meaning that if you aspire to be a general surgeon, allopathic students might start shadowing a surgeon at their own institution during there first year or two of med school and then do well on their surgery rotation during their third year. By the time 4th year rolls around the attendings may already know the kid by name. DO students often do their rotations at small hospitals that don't have residency programs. This puts you at a big disadvantage if you have borderline grades/scores for a specialty. Ive been told that it is usually very very important for DO students to really impress during their 4th year away rotations.
Posted by olemiss5931
Augusta, GA
Member since Apr 2012
2198 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:52 pm to
Yea thats a big factor also. ive worked a good amount with the Program Directory of the specialty im interested in at my hospital. DO students not having that opportunity certainly puts them at a disadvantage
Posted by BearsFan
Member since Mar 2016
1283 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 12:01 am to
Are they going to increase residency programs in the area?


Will the students have to leave the area or the state? Will this actually increase the number of doctors in the area?
This post was edited on 5/26/18 at 12:02 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31213 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 6:46 am to
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Is there an easier point of entry,
Admissions requirements tend to be a little less competitive.

From an article I read

quote:

The DO curriculum in the US is now indistinguishable from that of the MD curriculum of traditional medical schools, with one glaring distinction. A vestigial, non-trivial remnant of osteopathic teaching has been retained and remains, at least for the sake of appearances, at the heart of the mission of these schools. While osteopathic schools also claim distinction by focusing on a “holistic” approach to health and on disease prevention, this is a false distinction as traditional medical schools place this approach at the core of their missions as well. Despite the one true distinction between traditional and osteopathic medical school (the focus on osteopathic manipulative therapy), a minority of DOs continues to practice OMT once they finish their training (Johnson et al., 2001). My experience working with many DO students and graduates is that most do not choose this path to a medical degree because of the DO component of the training, but because of the less competitive nature of the admissions requirements. The traditional DO student body has tended to be older and have lower GPA and MCAT scores than that of traditional medical schools. Probably a plus, it has also tended to be comprised of students with more diverse, non-traditional backgrounds.


LINK to article on science based medicine.org

Fairly comprehensive article on Osteopathic Medicine on Quackwatch.org
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