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re: Judge Ellis has been given scope memo from Mueller

Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:13 pm to
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who does Mueller report to?


Apparently, he reports to Mueller.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
28084 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:34 pm to
You do realize that the DOJ is a creation of Congress? So Congress does have oversight it would be folly to argue otherwise

Personally, I'd like Congress to use the power of the purse and stop funding for the OSC. These guys are nothing but fishermen going all the way back to Lawrence Welsh and Ken Starr
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36456 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:36 pm to
Congress should slash the budget of the FBI and DOJ in half. They'd get the message pronto.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:30 pm to
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You do realize that the DOJ is a creation of Congress? So Congress does have oversight it would be folly to argue otherwise


Congress has oversight over the DOJ. they have oversight over rosenstein. They don't have direct oversight of Mueller.

You don't want mueller providing information directly to congress. You want it to go through DOJ if you are a trumps supporter. Otherwise mueller could document to congress what was done in the trump campaign, and then it would immediately go public. The DOJ provides a buffer.

quote:

Personally, I'd like Congress to use the power of the purse and stop funding for the OSC.

Shutting down the investigation now just makes you look guilty as frick.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49043 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:32 pm to
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what was done in the trump campaig


So far they haven't indicted anyone for "what was done in the trump campaign"....so what actions are you referencing?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49190 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:36 pm to
i thought we already knew the memo? and knew that it said "anything else arising from" or something of that nature?
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:40 pm to
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So far they haven't indicted anyone for "what was done in the trump campaign"....so what actions are you referencing?


And you make my point for me. Let's say trump is 100% innocent, this wouldn't stop mueller from sharing something with congress. And congress leaks like a sieve, so everyone would know.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9915 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:43 pm to
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i thought we already knew the memo? and knew that it said "anything else arising from" or something of that nature?


Different Rosenstein memo. The one you're mentioning is Rosenstein's memo appointing Mueller SC and outlining the overall scope of the investigation. It was learned in the process of Manafort challenging his charges within the scope of the SC investigation that Rosenstein had written a second memo (dated Aug. 2, 2017) which more specifically authorized Mueller's scope with regard to the Manafort aspect of the investigation.

As you can see here, though, most of the particulars were redacted.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33838 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Am I the only one tired of seeing this?


Well... it’s new and the story is still developing so... it’s BREAKING news.
People need something new to bitch about.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9915 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:48 pm to
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And congress leaks like a sieve


Remember your four ways of disseminating information in Washington - telephone, telegraph, television, tell a congressman.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80375 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 4:49 pm to
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And you make my point for me. Let's say trump is 100% innocent, this wouldn't stop mueller from sharing something with congress. And congress leaks like a sieve, so everyone would know.


If he’s innocent, what’s Mueller going to share with Congress?

You’re just talking in circles now. Easier than admitting you have no clue, I guess.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9915 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 4:53 pm to
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If he’s innocent, what’s Mueller going to share with Congress?

You’re just talking in circles now. Easier than admitting you have no clue, I guess.


I think he's saying there may be some things that are politically damaging (or personally embarrassing to his campaign staff and family perhaps) that fall short of indictable offenses.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 4:57 pm to
Congress has had access to sensitive info for months but continue on with the lies


quote:

Rosenstein, aware of the threats against him, has taken unusual steps to try to meet the demands, adding employees to review the requested files and sharing unredacted documents normally off limits to Congress — including memos drafted by former FBI Director James B. Comey about his interactions with Trump. The department has even set up office space at its headquarters for congressional staff members and lawmakers to review hundreds of thousands of documents already studied by the department’s inspector general, according to a department official. 


The problem is the pubs want to undermine an open investigation and share the info with Trump. That's all this is. This is like the mob getting to jurors

LINK /
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20297 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:05 pm to
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Breaking


quote:

Am I the only one tired of seeing this?


You got an upvote so I suppose that means no.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20297 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:08 pm to
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Shutting down the investigation now just makes you look guilty as frick.



Not when we now know what we know...it just makes the investigation look like the bullshite it really is and the person shutting it down look like they actually have a spine by doing it.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80375 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 6:00 pm to
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I think he's saying there may be some things that are politically damaging (or personally embarrassing to his campaign staff and family perhaps) that fall short of indictable offenses.


Yeah, because the MSM hasn’t already shown themselves to be obliging enough in that area.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80375 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 6:03 pm to
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Not when we now know what we know...it just makes the investigation look like the bullshite it really is and the person shutting it down look like they actually have a spine by doing it.


They’ve strung this out so long, they’ve hit the point of diminishing returns. If he shut it down tomorrow, there’d be a hue and cry in the media but the fact is, he’d suffer minimal fallout with the public. The Dems have badly overplayed their hand.
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