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re: What if Lincoln wasn't assassinated?

Posted on 5/16/18 at 6:28 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 6:28 pm to
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This is a deep fricking topic. Should have been started during the day. No one knew his plans on integration of Africans or reconstruction. He might have relocated a % of AAs to other regions. Might have moved industry south. We will never know. He was a thinker. He kicked the idea around about securing AAs an African country. They declined. I do think his assassinating was a major setback for our country. He wanted unity. The pure capitalist took over and raped our resources, and fricking starved the common man.



A better question, what if Kennedy doesn’t get his head blown off and LBJ doesn’t get his vote plantation of the Great Society pushed through, does the black family and community still get destroyed in order to keep them voting “correctly”?
Posted by StealthCalais11
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 6:31 pm to
Interesting. The events in history happening behind the scenes have always fascinated me.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 6:34 pm to
IDK. Outside of the NE and Cali, this country was insanely poor. A ton of the social programs were aimed at poor whites. These were basically taxes to redistribute wealth that the rich NE whites were hoarding. I am kind of neutral on some of these programs being a southern man.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 6:37 pm to
There’d be way more equality. Alton Sterling would be alive. Might’ve even had a black president by now. President Sterling, perhaps.
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 6:58 pm
Posted by 62Tigerfan
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 6:40 pm to
Posted by fontell
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 6:45 pm to
Then that was an incredibly good play
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 6:47 pm to
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y. The pure capitalist took over and raped our resources, and fricking starved the common man.

The fricking irony
Posted by Beaver Bandit
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 6:55 pm to
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If you believe in the multiverse theory then there's a universe where Lincoln didn't get assassinated
There's a universe where Hillary won...those poor bastards
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:14 pm to
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We bought Liberia with the intent of making it an American Colony of former slaves. Lincoln meet with leaders and they declined. Claimed AAs wanted equal rights as Americans.



Did we return Liberia and get our money back?
Posted by FreeState
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:47 pm to
Those radical clowns who Lincoln managed to keep at bay while alive and in office set out to punish the South in any way they could. We're still paying for slavery in the South today.

Had Abe managed to live, he'd have more conciliatory and the old Confederate guard in the South would not have been nearly as strong.

Keep in mind, the northern states weren't all hip on all the freed slaves moving into their states. If I recall my history correctly, the part NOT taught in classrooms (remember the winners get to print the history), some northern states passed laws forbidding entry to former slaves.

An old politician/friend of mine who was sympathetic to blacks once told me "the worst mistake this country ever made was slavery; the second worst mistake was freeing them".

What he meant by that was a large population of folks who had never fended for themselves, were not educated, had nowhere to go and nothing to live on, were dumped into society. He went on to say that the radicals were to blame for the 'dumping' of blacks and not doing anything to help them adjust.
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 7:20 am to
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Those radical clowns who Lincoln managed to keep at bay while alive and in office set out to punish the South in any way they could


They basically wanted to impeach Andrew Johnson simply because they disagreed over Reconstruction.
Posted by eScott
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 7:24 am to
Posted by High C
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:39 am to
One bump for the day crew.
Posted by cleeveclever
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:50 am to
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If you believe in the multiverse theory then there's a universe where Lincoln didn't get assassinated.

But that universe, having not contacted our universe, clearly shows that they don't have it any better. Comparatively.




Um...whoa?
Posted by rld280z
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:54 am to
He would have sent the blacks back to Africa per his own words.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:20 am to
Lincoln's position on relocating blacks

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For much of his career, Lincoln believed that colonization—or the idea that a majority of the African-American population should leave the United States and settle in Africa or Central America—was the best way to confront the problem of slavery. His two great political heroes, Henry Clay and Thomas Jefferson, had both favored colonization; both were slave owners who took issue with aspects of slavery but saw no way that blacks and whites could live together peaceably. Lincoln first publicly advocated for colonization in 1852, and in 1854 said that his first instinct would be “to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia” (the African state founded by the American Colonization Society in 1821). Nearly a decade later, even as he edited the draft of the preliminary Emancipation Proclamation in August of 1862, Lincoln hosted a delegation of freed slaves at the White House in the hopes of getting their support on a plan for colonization in Central America. Given the “differences” between the two races and the hostile attitudes of whites towards blacks, Lincoln argued, it would be “better for us both, therefore, to be separated.” Lincoln’s support of colonization provoked great anger among black leaders and abolitionists, who argued that African-Americans were as much natives of the country as whites, and thus deserved the same rights. After he issued the preliminary Emancipation Proclamation, Lincoln never again publicly mentioned colonization, and a mention of it in an earlier draft was deleted by the time the final proclamation was issued in January 1863. Emancipation was a military policy.
Posted by pensacola
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:23 am to
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What if Lincoln wasn't assassinated?

What, do you think it was suicide?
Posted by browl
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:16 am to
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The deep state couldn’t allow that. They’ve been at work since the beginning.




^^This is the most accurate post in this thread. Leave all of the racial shite out of this discussion. Lincoln was engaged against the european bankers. There is far more than meets the "eye" here, and slavery is NOT the real issue. Lincoln was trying to make sure the USA remained free from control by the bankers, to keep them from setting up shop.

If he wasn't done in, there is no telling where we would be right now.
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 11:16 am
Posted by MBclass83
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:48 am to
We should have just picked our own agricultural product.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 12:09 pm to
This may explain a bit about Lincoln's thoughts for a relocation program.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/United_States_Statutes_at_Large/Volume_1/1st_Congress/2nd_Session/Chapter_3
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 12:10 pm
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