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re: Anyone Else Purchasing a Robert E. Lee Concrete Statue

Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:05 pm to
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23345 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:05 pm to
God that would be amazing for my front yard in my neighborhood, only problem is having to hose the tears off my sidewalk all the time
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34951 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:12 pm to
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Lee's father was one of George Washington's (you know, the Father of the fricking Country) top commanders


Light-Horse Harry, motherfrickers.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26008 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:13 pm to
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It's absolutely true. The Lee family wasn't destitute, but they weren't wealthy barons, either. Robert E. Lee neither owned nor inherited any slaves during his lifetime


You are most likely wrong, having matriculated at a good Southern private institution of higher learning which believed in the cause enough to sink almost all their rather substantial endowment of $100,000 into Confederate war bonds discussion and research about the South's favorite son and general were quit popular.

Going from memory:

While his mother itemized the bequests of her estate to her daughter the remainder of the estate was left to the three brothers and the mother owned slaves at her death but fewer than earlier. Lee detailed in correspondence with his brothers that he owned two women and their children. There is also the older black man that was with Lee at his first posting somewhere in GA, IIRC, which was almost surely a slave.

Lee almost certainly owned slaves prior to marriage.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 8:36 pm
Posted by Tall Tiger
Dixie
Member since Sep 2007
3298 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:17 pm to
Forget, Hell!
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114133 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:17 pm to
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I'm getting one just to offend people.


Get a statue of a woman blowing a dude, that would offend more people.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:20 pm to
I'm getting one for my front lawn. Right next to the mail box with the raised flag.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9699 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:31 pm to
That’s a more appropriate size for a participation trophy
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:42 pm to
I wonder if I can just pick one up. NO aint that far.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19430 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:46 pm to
Who’s gonna be the first OT baw to buy one and place it on top the now empty column in Lee circle?
Posted by Caligula
Member since Apr 2018
68 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:47 pm to
Historical memory is divisive, poison.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89740 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:49 pm to
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You are most likely wrong


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Going from memory:





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the mother owned slaves at her death but fewer than earlier.


And they were living in the townhouse in Alexandria? That's where Robert lived until he went to West Point. Then he married Mary and moved onto one of the Parke Custis properties.

But, no, I'm not wrong - Light Horse Harry was a great general, but terrible with business/money - he fricked around and lost Stratford Hall to the eldest son (Harry IV, who ultimately lost it due to his own shenanigans and it left the family), got his slaves seized and did time in a debtor's prison - this was after he had been the Governor of Virginia.

Ann Carter (LHH's second wife) ended up essentially surviving and caring for her children with LHH (including Robert Edward) off an allowance from her family in middle class fashion in Alexandria. She pushed for Robert to attend West Point because she couldn't afford tuition anywhere.

So - no - the Lee family did not have slaves by the time Robert came of age. He did not own or inherit slaves during his lifetime. Period.



This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 8:51 pm
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7116 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:01 pm to
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I bought two. One for my place in Yorba Linda and one for my place in Round Rock. Goes to a great cause and lets everyone know where you stand.


Some people just love losers.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:01 pm to
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George Washington Parke Custis (the step grandson of George fricking Washington), freed his slaves in his will, upon his death in 1857 - and Lee as administrator of the will manumitted those slaves in accordance with those instructions.


Again....stretching the truth
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26008 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:02 pm to
[img]So - no - the Lee family did not have slaves by the time Robert came of age. He did not own or inherit slaves during his lifetime. Period. [/img]

Since you didn't bother to cite any authority I have no impetus to track down the letters to his brothers.

I will simply agree to disagree. Much of the history of the time has been written and rewritten and the only accounts I trust are the memorialized first-hand accounts which still have to be viewed for bias.
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5521 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:02 pm to
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Lee didn't actually own any slaves.


Not true. He owned a small number of them personally during his lifetime.

He was also the administrator of his father in law's will. He used a provision in it to retain Parke Custis's slaves in bondage in order to produce income for the estate to retire debt.

He thought the institution of slavery was worse for the white master than the slaves themselves.

The vast majority of Americans don't really understand the depth of the issues at the time nor do they have a good grasp on how the ideas that were so accepted as normal back then can seem to be so extreme in our eyes.


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Ace Midnight


It's know-nothings like this that spread the misinformation that is then accepted as gospel by the ignorant. Period.

The mythology that's been built up in the south surrounding the war and it's combatants is one of the most damning issues of the whole fricked up region.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 9:12 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:04 pm to
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You'll be the envy of the trailer park.



Oh look, a mindless cliche!
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48666 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:05 pm to
I don't need one because I already have two whiskey decanters that are sculptures of R.E. Lee, the greatest adversary of the US Government that ever lived.

Cheers to you, Lee, and, frick the US Government.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89740 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:09 pm to
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Again....stretching the truth



How is that stretching the truth?
Posted by Jimmydatiger
North Endzone
Member since Dec 2011
369 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:10 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 12:29 pm
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:11 pm to
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trashy



Meh, the trash will most definitely be the victors the way things are going. EMP blast = almost no progressives in 2 months.
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