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re: Anyone Else Purchasing a Robert E. Lee Concrete Statue
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:05 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:05 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
God that would be amazing for my front yard in my neighborhood, only problem is having to hose the tears off my sidewalk all the time
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:12 pm to Ace Midnight
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Lee's father was one of George Washington's (you know, the Father of the fricking Country) top commanders
Light-Horse Harry, motherfrickers.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:13 pm to Ace Midnight
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It's absolutely true. The Lee family wasn't destitute, but they weren't wealthy barons, either. Robert E. Lee neither owned nor inherited any slaves during his lifetime
You are most likely wrong, having matriculated at a good Southern private institution of higher learning which believed in the cause enough to sink almost all their rather substantial endowment of $100,000 into Confederate war bonds discussion and research about the South's favorite son and general were quit popular.
Going from memory:
While his mother itemized the bequests of her estate to her daughter the remainder of the estate was left to the three brothers and the mother owned slaves at her death but fewer than earlier. Lee detailed in correspondence with his brothers that he owned two women and their children. There is also the older black man that was with Lee at his first posting somewhere in GA, IIRC, which was almost surely a slave.
Lee almost certainly owned slaves prior to marriage.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:17 pm to kengel2
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I'm getting one just to offend people.
Get a statue of a woman blowing a dude, that would offend more people.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:20 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
I'm getting one for my front lawn. Right next to the mail box with the raised flag.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:31 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
That’s a more appropriate size for a participation trophy
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:42 pm to lsuwontonwrap
I wonder if I can just pick one up. NO aint that far.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:46 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Who’s gonna be the first OT baw to buy one and place it on top the now empty column in Lee circle?
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:47 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Historical memory is divisive, poison.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 8:49 pm to Obtuse1
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You are most likely wrong
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Going from memory:
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the mother owned slaves at her death but fewer than earlier.
And they were living in the townhouse in Alexandria? That's where Robert lived until he went to West Point. Then he married Mary and moved onto one of the Parke Custis properties.
But, no, I'm not wrong - Light Horse Harry was a great general, but terrible with business/money - he fricked around and lost Stratford Hall to the eldest son (Harry IV, who ultimately lost it due to his own shenanigans and it left the family), got his slaves seized and did time in a debtor's prison - this was after he had been the Governor of Virginia.
Ann Carter (LHH's second wife) ended up essentially surviving and caring for her children with LHH (including Robert Edward) off an allowance from her family in middle class fashion in Alexandria. She pushed for Robert to attend West Point because she couldn't afford tuition anywhere.
So - no - the Lee family did not have slaves by the time Robert came of age. He did not own or inherit slaves during his lifetime. Period.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:01 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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I bought two. One for my place in Yorba Linda and one for my place in Round Rock. Goes to a great cause and lets everyone know where you stand.
Some people just love losers.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:01 pm to Ace Midnight
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George Washington Parke Custis (the step grandson of George fricking Washington), freed his slaves in his will, upon his death in 1857 - and Lee as administrator of the will manumitted those slaves in accordance with those instructions.
Again....stretching the truth
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:02 pm to Ace Midnight
[img]So - no - the Lee family did not have slaves by the time Robert came of age. He did not own or inherit slaves during his lifetime. Period. [/img]
Since you didn't bother to cite any authority I have no impetus to track down the letters to his brothers.
I will simply agree to disagree. Much of the history of the time has been written and rewritten and the only accounts I trust are the memorialized first-hand accounts which still have to be viewed for bias.
Since you didn't bother to cite any authority I have no impetus to track down the letters to his brothers.
I will simply agree to disagree. Much of the history of the time has been written and rewritten and the only accounts I trust are the memorialized first-hand accounts which still have to be viewed for bias.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:02 pm to Ace Midnight
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Lee didn't actually own any slaves.
Not true. He owned a small number of them personally during his lifetime.
He was also the administrator of his father in law's will. He used a provision in it to retain Parke Custis's slaves in bondage in order to produce income for the estate to retire debt.
He thought the institution of slavery was worse for the white master than the slaves themselves.
The vast majority of Americans don't really understand the depth of the issues at the time nor do they have a good grasp on how the ideas that were so accepted as normal back then can seem to be so extreme in our eyes.
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Ace Midnight
It's know-nothings like this that spread the misinformation that is then accepted as gospel by the ignorant. Period.
The mythology that's been built up in the south surrounding the war and it's combatants is one of the most damning issues of the whole fricked up region.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:04 pm to eScott
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You'll be the envy of the trailer park.
Oh look, a mindless cliche!
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:05 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
I don't need one because I already have two whiskey decanters that are sculptures of R.E. Lee, the greatest adversary of the US Government that ever lived.
Cheers to you, Lee, and, frick the US Government.
Cheers to you, Lee, and, frick the US Government.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:09 pm to fightin tigers
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Again....stretching the truth
How is that stretching the truth?
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:10 pm to Ace Midnight
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This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:11 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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trashy
Meh, the trash will most definitely be the victors the way things are going. EMP blast = almost no progressives in 2 months.
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