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re: 3 weeks in the USA.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 11:03 pm to hrryhll
Posted on 4/6/18 at 11:03 pm to hrryhll
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6th Street looks good for live music but not sure what else I would do.
I would advise you to avoid 6th street as it's mostly douchebags..... Just like Bourbon street in New Orleans. East Austin is great.
[img]but not sure what else I would do. Maybe visit the state Capitol. [/img]
True.... There are some nice trekking paths along the lake in the city. But it is mostly eating and drinking..... It is the barbecue Capitol of the U.S. and Franklin's is a place people from all over travel to eat. And there are 4 or 5 other amazing barbecue places in town. Then there are great tacos.... But mostly it is a live music city.....many,many bands playing every night.
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Nashville looks good but Hotels are quite expensive.
Are you familiar with AirBnB? It's usually less expensive. We use it all over the US and Europe.
This post was edited on 4/6/18 at 11:09 pm
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Posted on 4/6/18 at 11:15 pm to hrryhll
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Nurse, Why no? ??
Because the only people who pronounce it that way are tourists. Most people from LA hate hearing people pronounce it that way.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 11:23 pm to lsunurse
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Because the only people who pronounce it that way are tourists.
I concur. Most people pronounce it New Orlens.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 12:34 am to hrryhll
Can you rent a car? Not sure how that works for foreigners.
If you can rent a car, I would fly from MSY to Denver and rent a car. Spend a day or two in Denver, then drive to LA. This would be my itinerary:
Denver > Breckenridge > Leadville > Salida > Ouray/Telluride. Stop for some day hikes on the trails or 14ers (Grays Peak, Mt Massive, Mt Elbert, Mt Sneffels). There are hostels in every one of these towns you can sleep for cheap. Aspens will be golden that time of year. Half a dozen National Forests on that stretch and the San Juan Mountain range is one of America's treasures.
Telluride > Moab UT. Once in UT you have the Might 5 National Parks (Arches, Canyonlands, Capitol Reef, Bryce, and Zion). Canyons, hoodoos, slot canyons, rock formations that will blow your mind. Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument next to Bryce is awesome too. Pick one or two to explore for a few days.
While in the area a few other places to consider: Buckskin Gulch, Coyote Buttes, Antelope Canyon, and The Wave. Google all of them, they are insane places that will blow your mind as much as any of the NPs.
Then swing by Grand Canyon south rim (north rim closes around 10/15). Hike down a few miles on South Kaibab or Bright Angel to soak in the experience.
Then head to Vegas for a day and then the hop skip and jump over to LA for your wrasslin.
If you don't give a shite about mountains and canyons or can't rent a car, then I would fly from MSY to San Diego. Hang out in Gas Lamp, Tijuana, Mission Beach, Pac Beach. Then head to LA.
If you can rent a car, I would fly from MSY to Denver and rent a car. Spend a day or two in Denver, then drive to LA. This would be my itinerary:
Denver > Breckenridge > Leadville > Salida > Ouray/Telluride. Stop for some day hikes on the trails or 14ers (Grays Peak, Mt Massive, Mt Elbert, Mt Sneffels). There are hostels in every one of these towns you can sleep for cheap. Aspens will be golden that time of year. Half a dozen National Forests on that stretch and the San Juan Mountain range is one of America's treasures.
Telluride > Moab UT. Once in UT you have the Might 5 National Parks (Arches, Canyonlands, Capitol Reef, Bryce, and Zion). Canyons, hoodoos, slot canyons, rock formations that will blow your mind. Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument next to Bryce is awesome too. Pick one or two to explore for a few days.
While in the area a few other places to consider: Buckskin Gulch, Coyote Buttes, Antelope Canyon, and The Wave. Google all of them, they are insane places that will blow your mind as much as any of the NPs.
Then swing by Grand Canyon south rim (north rim closes around 10/15). Hike down a few miles on South Kaibab or Bright Angel to soak in the experience.
Then head to Vegas for a day and then the hop skip and jump over to LA for your wrasslin.
If you don't give a shite about mountains and canyons or can't rent a car, then I would fly from MSY to San Diego. Hang out in Gas Lamp, Tijuana, Mission Beach, Pac Beach. Then head to LA.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 9:37 am to hrryhll
Appreciate all the suggestions but I am now more confused than ever ??
Miami, New Orleans and Los Angeles are certainties. Probably Vegas too as a base to visit the Grand Canyon.
I just have to decide on one or two other cities.
I like San Francisco with the Golden Gate Bridge and Alcatraz and decent public transport.
This would possibly leave one more city if I do 6 Cities in 3 weeks(3 or 4 days in each city is enough for me). I done 4 cities in 2 weeks last year.
This would likely leave a choice between San Diego or another city in the south.
A car is not possible because I only started lessons late last year and don’t have a license ??
Miami, New Orleans and Los Angeles are certainties. Probably Vegas too as a base to visit the Grand Canyon.
I just have to decide on one or two other cities.
I like San Francisco with the Golden Gate Bridge and Alcatraz and decent public transport.
This would possibly leave one more city if I do 6 Cities in 3 weeks(3 or 4 days in each city is enough for me). I done 4 cities in 2 weeks last year.
This would likely leave a choice between San Diego or another city in the south.
A car is not possible because I only started lessons late last year and don’t have a license ??
Posted on 4/7/18 at 10:27 am to hrryhll
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This would likely leave a choice between San Diego or another city in the south.
Then 100% go with San Diego, don't waste too much time in the south. And since you are already going to Los Angeles and San Francisco....will make flights between those areas much cheaper. You can easily get a bus or train between Los Angeles and San Diego.
ETA: Weather in San Diego when you go will still be very nice btw. Can check out Pacific Beach/Mission Beach area, Gaslamp District, Petco Park, La Jolla area, Maritime Museum and USS Midway Museum in San Diego(if you are a history person), San Diego Zoo(one of the best, if not THE best, zoos in the U.S), SeaWorld, Balboa Park, and much, much more.
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 11:11 am
Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:03 am to hrryhll
Dallas is a pretty polarizing city here in the states. I think it's fine as a sort of pit stop as you travel from the east to the west because flights to and from there are pretty cheap, but I wouldn't spend more than a day or two there. Fly in, see the JFK stuff, have a nice steak somewhere, visit Ft Worth, then fly out. That's really all there is to see, other than the fake plastic people.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:05 am to offshoreangler
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Don’t come to Texas and fricking visit Dallas...go to the Hill Country...Austin and the surrounding area.
Seconded. If you're young and like to party, go to the Lonestar Floathouse outside of New Braunfels and float the Guadalupe River.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 5:07 pm to LSUsuperfresh
I grew up in Dallas and still live here. The restaraunts and shopping are top notch.
If you're here in October, Dallas is your stop. The Texas State Fair will run until the 21st and is unlike anything you've ever seen. There are livestock shows, an automobile show, concerts, college football games, carnival rides and games, and the food is unreal: anything you can possibly think of battered and fried from Oreo cookies to bananas to tamales. You must partake of a Fletchers corn dog, too. Going to the Fair will run you about $200-300, but you will love the experience.
State Fair of Texas
Other things worth seeing in Dallas: Bush library, 6th Floor museum (JFK), Perot Museum, Dallas World Aquarium. SMU houses the Meadows Museum, the largest collection of Spanish art outside of Spain. Spend an afternoon in Bishop Arts or Deep Ellum. Klyde Warren Park downtown is a must; food trucks are usually parked on the south side of the park. October is football season, so dole out the cash for a Cowboys game at AT&T Stadium, one of the best sporting venues in the world; it won't be cheap, but the experience is worth it. Six Flags Over Texas is the best amusement park in the state by far, especially if you like roller coasters. Dallas gives you a good portrait of what a large, cosmopolitan city in the US is like. It's easier to get around than Austin, San Antonio, or Houston.
If you come to Dallas, you should spend time in Ft Worth as well. It has a great zoo, the Kimbell Museum, and the Stockyards (where all the cowboy culture is located). Head over to Billy Bob's for a honky tonk experience. Downtown Ft Worth has a great nightlife (unlike Dallas).
I love Austin and the surrounding Hill Country. You can visit the State Capitol, the University of Texas (LBJ library), Lady Bird Lake on the Colorado River, good restaurants and a great nightlife culture on South Congress and downtown on 6th St. Austin has a great live music scene. Grab a meal at The Oasis on Lake Travis and drive 30 mins out of town for BBQ at the Salt Lick. You can tube the Comal or Guadalupe in New Braunfels an hour south of Austin. Schlitterbahn, the best waterpark in the country, is located in New Braunfels as well. May not be a possibility that late in the year...
San Antonio is the heritage center of the state. The Alamo is a must as is an evening stroll along the Riverwalk downtown. You would also have a shorter drive to New Braunfels and its attractions above. Sea World and Fiesta Texas on the west side of town offer a good portrait of what American amusement parks are like.
Dallas/Ft. Worth is the cosmopolitan center of the state. Austin is more for outdoorsy adventurers; more of a hipster scene there. San Antonio is for history lovers; lots of important Texas historical sites are there.
You can use Uber/Lyft to get around any of these cities, but Dallas has the best rail system and you can take rail from downtown Dallas to downtown Ft Worth any day of the week except Sunday. Rail also goes from downtown Dallas to all of the attractions I listed above in Dallas. Maybe 20-30 min walks from rail station to a couple of the attractions except the ones in Arlington. You can Uber to those easily.
If you're here in October, Dallas is your stop. The Texas State Fair will run until the 21st and is unlike anything you've ever seen. There are livestock shows, an automobile show, concerts, college football games, carnival rides and games, and the food is unreal: anything you can possibly think of battered and fried from Oreo cookies to bananas to tamales. You must partake of a Fletchers corn dog, too. Going to the Fair will run you about $200-300, but you will love the experience.
State Fair of Texas
Other things worth seeing in Dallas: Bush library, 6th Floor museum (JFK), Perot Museum, Dallas World Aquarium. SMU houses the Meadows Museum, the largest collection of Spanish art outside of Spain. Spend an afternoon in Bishop Arts or Deep Ellum. Klyde Warren Park downtown is a must; food trucks are usually parked on the south side of the park. October is football season, so dole out the cash for a Cowboys game at AT&T Stadium, one of the best sporting venues in the world; it won't be cheap, but the experience is worth it. Six Flags Over Texas is the best amusement park in the state by far, especially if you like roller coasters. Dallas gives you a good portrait of what a large, cosmopolitan city in the US is like. It's easier to get around than Austin, San Antonio, or Houston.
If you come to Dallas, you should spend time in Ft Worth as well. It has a great zoo, the Kimbell Museum, and the Stockyards (where all the cowboy culture is located). Head over to Billy Bob's for a honky tonk experience. Downtown Ft Worth has a great nightlife (unlike Dallas).
I love Austin and the surrounding Hill Country. You can visit the State Capitol, the University of Texas (LBJ library), Lady Bird Lake on the Colorado River, good restaurants and a great nightlife culture on South Congress and downtown on 6th St. Austin has a great live music scene. Grab a meal at The Oasis on Lake Travis and drive 30 mins out of town for BBQ at the Salt Lick. You can tube the Comal or Guadalupe in New Braunfels an hour south of Austin. Schlitterbahn, the best waterpark in the country, is located in New Braunfels as well. May not be a possibility that late in the year...
San Antonio is the heritage center of the state. The Alamo is a must as is an evening stroll along the Riverwalk downtown. You would also have a shorter drive to New Braunfels and its attractions above. Sea World and Fiesta Texas on the west side of town offer a good portrait of what American amusement parks are like.
Dallas/Ft. Worth is the cosmopolitan center of the state. Austin is more for outdoorsy adventurers; more of a hipster scene there. San Antonio is for history lovers; lots of important Texas historical sites are there.
You can use Uber/Lyft to get around any of these cities, but Dallas has the best rail system and you can take rail from downtown Dallas to downtown Ft Worth any day of the week except Sunday. Rail also goes from downtown Dallas to all of the attractions I listed above in Dallas. Maybe 20-30 min walks from rail station to a couple of the attractions except the ones in Arlington. You can Uber to those easily.
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 4/7/18 at 6:15 pm to hrryhll
San Francisco all day long over San Diego. Better food, better public transit, more interesting scenery, and better proximity to day trips (Napa/Sonoma, Muir Woods).
San Diego has better weather, and it’s a nice town for a short visit. But SF offers so much more.
San Diego has better weather, and it’s a nice town for a short visit. But SF offers so much more.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 6:46 pm to hungryone
Thanks guys, especially blue for the detailed post about Texas.
My 3 weeks will be from Monday 29 October until Monday 19 November so unfortunately would miss the state fair.
Would you say it is better to base yourself in Fort Worth or Dallas? The stockyards looks like a cool place and is how I imagine Texas to be. Probably just me stereotyping though.
Going to a Cowboys game would be good. It would be my 5th NFL game and 3rd in America. I think the schedule is out later this month so could plan better then. A long shot but if they were playing a home game on Monday 5th November it would be perfect for if I went to Dallas.
I read there are tours to the stadium which could be an alternative.
I would probably skip Vegas if it was not for wanting to see the Grand Canyon. I am not really a gambler either but I am just curious to see it.
Cheers.
My 3 weeks will be from Monday 29 October until Monday 19 November so unfortunately would miss the state fair.
Would you say it is better to base yourself in Fort Worth or Dallas? The stockyards looks like a cool place and is how I imagine Texas to be. Probably just me stereotyping though.
Going to a Cowboys game would be good. It would be my 5th NFL game and 3rd in America. I think the schedule is out later this month so could plan better then. A long shot but if they were playing a home game on Monday 5th November it would be perfect for if I went to Dallas.
I read there are tours to the stadium which could be an alternative.
I would probably skip Vegas if it was not for wanting to see the Grand Canyon. I am not really a gambler either but I am just curious to see it.
Cheers.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 6:58 pm to hrryhll
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I would probably skip Vegas if it was not for wanting to see the Grand Canyon.
Oh you have to go to Vegas at least once just to experience it. Don't have to gamble to enjoy Vegas. Check out a few shows, walk around and people watch. You can combine Vegas with Hoover Dam and Grand Canyon.
Grand Canyon is one of those things that pictures will never do it justice. You have to see it for yourself. It is really quite amazing.
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:09 pm to lsunurse
True Nurse. Not sure when I would be over on the West Coast again so will always regret not going Vegas for at least a couple of days and especially the Grand Canyon. There is a YouTube video of a guy doing a day tour to Grand Canyon from Vegas and it looks pretty good value. I think it stops at Hoover Dam too.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:11 pm to hrryhll
If you can rent a car, driving the CA coast from San Diego to San Francisco is awesome. Cities with stuff to experience and the natural beauty of the coast. I might consider basing a few days on that.
Doing the West/Southwest without a car is hard because half the experience is how spread out stuff is and the space in between.
Grand Canyon is great and southern Utah has some really nice places, as posted above.
Doing the West/Southwest without a car is hard because half the experience is how spread out stuff is and the space in between.
Grand Canyon is great and southern Utah has some really nice places, as posted above.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:15 pm to Rep520
He has already said renting a car is not an option for him.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:19 pm to hrryhll
You gonna do a helicopter tour of Grand Canyon fron Vegas?
I’ve done a helicopter tour of GC from right by GC National Park. It was amazing. Not too expensive either...considering. Like around $230 iirc.
I’ve done a helicopter tour of GC from right by GC National Park. It was amazing. Not too expensive either...considering. Like around $230 iirc.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:41 pm to lsunurse
Nurse(that sounds weird), There are 3 options on the tour website:
Bus tour to the South Rim - 14 hours total
Airplane tour - 4 hours total
Airplane and ground - 7.5 hours.
The airplane and ground looks the best but it is the most expensive.
All pick me up and return me to my hotel in Vegas.
Bus tour to the South Rim - 14 hours total
Airplane tour - 4 hours total
Airplane and ground - 7.5 hours.
The airplane and ground looks the best but it is the most expensive.
All pick me up and return me to my hotel in Vegas.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:43 pm to hrryhll
Ah, I think the helicopter tour is similar to the airplane one I am on about.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 9:37 pm to hrryhll
Aw man! That's too bad. The State Fair is amazing!
You can base yourself in either downtown Dallas or Ft. Worth. You can take the TRE (rail) over to the other city. Ft. Worth doesn't have a rail line like Dallas, but you can Uber/Lyft anywhere easily. You will have to Uber to AT&T Stadium. You can buy resale tickets to a Cowboys game easily on Ticketmaster or Seat Geek (official Cowboys sponsor). They offer tours of AT&T Stadium most days. If you can't get a ticket to the Cowboys, the Mavericks (NBA) and the Stars (NHL) play in downtown Dallas at the American Airlines Center.
You can take the DART rail from Terminal A to downtown Dallas from D/FW Airport, but it's a long ride. You can Uber/Lyft from Dallas/Love Field Airport with no trouble.
Hotels I recommend:
Dallas: Hilton Anatole, Hyatt Regency Downtown, Omni Downtown, W Victory, Fairmont Downtown, Westin Downtown, The Highland near Mockingbird Station/SMU (Hilton Curio collection). All of those hotels are near a DART rail station. Anatole is the furthest from a station, but its only a 1/2 mile. Theres a Spring Hill Suites and Doubletree in the West End if you need a cheaper price point. If you stay downtown, avoid the Greyhound Station downtown at night at all costs. Not safe there.
If you have fancy tastes, there's the Ritz-Carlton, the Crescent, and Hotel Zaza in Uptown, all on the Trolley line that connects to the DART rail downtown. The Stoneleigh is nice too, but it's not on the trolley line.
Ft. Worth: Worthington Renaissance, Omni Downtown, Hyatt Place Stockyards, Hilton Downtown, Embassy Suites. There's also a Courtyard by Marriott, a Hampton Inn (Hilton brand), and an aLoft (W brand) for a cheaper stay. Ft. Worth has a better downtown atmosphere than Dallas especially at night.
A note about Vegas: I'm not a big gambler and I love it. The resorts on the Strip are awesome. Great food. Great shows. Amazing shopping. I'm going again next month.
You can base yourself in either downtown Dallas or Ft. Worth. You can take the TRE (rail) over to the other city. Ft. Worth doesn't have a rail line like Dallas, but you can Uber/Lyft anywhere easily. You will have to Uber to AT&T Stadium. You can buy resale tickets to a Cowboys game easily on Ticketmaster or Seat Geek (official Cowboys sponsor). They offer tours of AT&T Stadium most days. If you can't get a ticket to the Cowboys, the Mavericks (NBA) and the Stars (NHL) play in downtown Dallas at the American Airlines Center.
You can take the DART rail from Terminal A to downtown Dallas from D/FW Airport, but it's a long ride. You can Uber/Lyft from Dallas/Love Field Airport with no trouble.
Hotels I recommend:
Dallas: Hilton Anatole, Hyatt Regency Downtown, Omni Downtown, W Victory, Fairmont Downtown, Westin Downtown, The Highland near Mockingbird Station/SMU (Hilton Curio collection). All of those hotels are near a DART rail station. Anatole is the furthest from a station, but its only a 1/2 mile. Theres a Spring Hill Suites and Doubletree in the West End if you need a cheaper price point. If you stay downtown, avoid the Greyhound Station downtown at night at all costs. Not safe there.
If you have fancy tastes, there's the Ritz-Carlton, the Crescent, and Hotel Zaza in Uptown, all on the Trolley line that connects to the DART rail downtown. The Stoneleigh is nice too, but it's not on the trolley line.
Ft. Worth: Worthington Renaissance, Omni Downtown, Hyatt Place Stockyards, Hilton Downtown, Embassy Suites. There's also a Courtyard by Marriott, a Hampton Inn (Hilton brand), and an aLoft (W brand) for a cheaper stay. Ft. Worth has a better downtown atmosphere than Dallas especially at night.
A note about Vegas: I'm not a big gambler and I love it. The resorts on the Strip are awesome. Great food. Great shows. Amazing shopping. I'm going again next month.
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 4/8/18 at 9:23 pm to hrryhll
Portland or Seattle could be interesting options while out on west coast. Just wanted to add suggestions
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