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re: NBA postseason awards discussion
Posted on 3/21/18 at 12:47 pm to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 3/21/18 at 12:47 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
b-ball ref MVP tracker
Has a 50 GP Chris Paul #2. Seems legit.
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 12:54 pm to Boomshockalocka
Team are going to mix up their PnR D against the Rox in the postseason. There are way more options than switch and don't switch. On Harden I think you'll see more hard hedge and over D. Some teams may try trapping it late in shot clock. Against CP3 you'll see a lot of different ones. Hard hedge and over, hard hedge and under, soft and contest from behind, ice(side ball stuff), slow play, etc. In the postseason teams will have WAY more in depth game plans against those high PnRs and I'm sure they will change and adjust throughout the series.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 12:55 pm to ShamelessPel
Let’s be honest Shae, anyone who doesn’t vote harden first should have their vote rescinded. This should be unanimous at this point.
I’d be shocked if we have even 5 voters who are brave enough to face the bashing they will get if they cast a vote for someone else.
Best player on best team leading the best offense in league history.
James Harden’s NBA ranks:
Points - 1st
PPG - 1st
Threes - 1st
Free Throws - 1st
Assists - 3rd
APG - 3rd
PER - 1st
Offensive win shares - 1st
Win shares - 1st
WS / 48 - 1st
Offensive BPM - 1st
BPM - 1st
VORP - 1st
I’d be shocked if we have even 5 voters who are brave enough to face the bashing they will get if they cast a vote for someone else.
Best player on best team leading the best offense in league history.
James Harden’s NBA ranks:
Points - 1st
PPG - 1st
Threes - 1st
Free Throws - 1st
Assists - 3rd
APG - 3rd
PER - 1st
Offensive win shares - 1st
Win shares - 1st
WS / 48 - 1st
Offensive BPM - 1st
BPM - 1st
VORP - 1st
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:03 pm to redfishfan
quote:They've seen it all during this season. The Raptors did a great job double teaming Harden in the pick and roll and forcing him to make bad passes.
Team are going to mix up their PnR D against the Rox in the postseason. There are way more options than switch and don't switch. On Harden I think you'll see more hard hedge and over D. Some teams may try trapping it late in shot clock. Against CP3 you'll see a lot of different ones. Hard hedge and over, hard hedge and under, soft and contest from behind, ice(side ball stuff), slow play, etc. In the postseason teams will have WAY more in depth game plans against those high PnRs and I'm sure they will change and adjust throughout the series.
After that game, other teams tried to copy, but the Rockets worked on beating that defense after the Raptors game and it hasn't worked against them since.
Because they've played against all kinds of different pick and roll coverages this season, I believe they are ready to face anything teams can throw at them in the playoffs.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:06 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:That is true, that the switching defenses lead to Harden or Paul exploiting mismatches, and those isolation plays take up the shot clock... but the Rockets also haven't really run the fast break very much.
The pace is a product of the opposition defense. If you switch then harden and Paul call for screens til they get the guy they want and abuse them. That takes up a decent amount of the shot clock. If you don’t switch then they get into the lane and it’s either a dunk, open three, or layup. this is the best offense the nba has ever seen. and with this soft schedule coming up it may end up being the best by a lot
They may try to get an open 3 during the early offense, but they don't really push the ball like some teams.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:12 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
Because they've played against all kinds of different pick and roll coverages this season, I believe they are ready to face anything teams can throw at them in the playoffs.
No doubt they'll be prepared but we both know postseason D is just a different animal.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:13 pm to PrimeTime Money
It really comes down simply to whether or not Harden can avoid the clunker playoff games he's prone to having at a higher rate than his peers, KD/Steph/Lebron.
I'll pencil them into the WCF, I don't see anyone from 3-8 that can beat HOU.
If he can avoid them, they're not a favorite but have an outside shot at taking down GS. If he can't avoid them, it'll be GS in 4 or 5.
I'll pencil them into the WCF, I don't see anyone from 3-8 that can beat HOU.
If he can avoid them, they're not a favorite but have an outside shot at taking down GS. If he can't avoid them, it'll be GS in 4 or 5.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:16 pm to Boomshockalocka
Fun stat that no one is really talking about:
Alvin Gentry’s team this year is 41-0 when they buy in. That’s really exceptional, and is a better record than any coach in the history of any sport.
Alvin Gentry’s team this year is 41-0 when they buy in. That’s really exceptional, and is a better record than any coach in the history of any sport.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:17 pm to TotesMcGotes
quote:This can't be talked about enough.
Fun stat that no one is really talking about:
Alvin Gentry’s team this year is 41-0 when they buy in. That’s really exceptional, and is a better record than any coach in the history of any sport.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:17 pm to TotesMcGotes
somebody call this guys mom he didnt take his meds this AM 
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:17 pm to shel311
Yea if he has those games where he has more turnovers than shot attempts, or games where he downright quits on his team, they probably don’t stand much of a chance tbt.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:20 pm to TotesMcGotes
I think he’s ok bubba. He’s played fewer minutes than ever, chances that he is not himself this post season are slim to none. If you haven’t notice he absolutely buried three consecutive “playoff teams” on their home court in the last week with one of them step back threes in the last minute. There’s nothing anybody can do about it.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:21 pm to shel311
quote:I think that narrative is overrated. Harden has had SOME clunkers in the playoffs. All players do. He's had some stinkers for sure. But his good performances have also been glossed over. The difference is that in the past Harden never had another all-star next to him to share the load. He had to do everything himself.
It really comes down simply to whether or not Harden can avoid the clunker playoff games he's prone to having at a higher rate than his peers, KD/Steph/Lebron.
I'll pencil them into the WCF, I don't see anyone from 3-8 that can beat HOU.
If he can avoid them, they're not a favorite but have an outside shot at taking down GS. If he can't avoid them, it'll be GS in 4 or 5.
So when teams key in on stopping him in the playoffs, his job is much harder than players on other teams who have multiple options on offense. He was bound to have games where he didn't play well when he's expected to do everything in every game.
Players on other teams may have bad games during the playoffs, but they had other good players next to them who could overshadow their bad game with a good game of their own. They were also less likely to have a bad game because they were not expected to carry the load to quite the same level as Harden.
This year, he's got another guy who can make things happen in Chris Paul. He's got guys who can lock down on defense on the other end. So even if he doesn't have his A game, they can still win. Just having another guy like Chris Paul may alleviate some of the ability of teams to key in specifically on him in the playoffs.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:21 pm to Boomshockalocka
When Alvin Gentry’s team buys in, they’re the best team in the history of sports. It’s truly remarkable, and it makes you wonder why they don’t always choose to buy in. Alas, when they do buy in, his record is better than D’Antoni and Pop. It really is an exemplary example of coaching.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:23 pm to TotesMcGotes
quote:I agree. The Pelicans should sign him to a lifetime contract.
When Alvin Gentry’s team buys in, they’re the best team in the history of sports. It’s truly remarkable, and it makes you wonder why they don’t always choose to buy in. Alas, when they do buy in, his record is better than D’Antoni and Pop. It really is an exemplary example of coaching.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:24 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
Harden has had SOME clunkers in the playoffs. All players do.
To be fair, when was the last time that LBJ, KD, Curry, had a game as bad as Harden's game 6 last year?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:25 pm to TotesMcGotes
quote:
When Alvin Gentry’s team buys in, they’re the best team in the history of sports. It’s truly remarkable, and it makes you wonder why they don’t always choose to buy in. Alas, when they do buy in, his record is better than D’Antoni and Pop. It really is an exemplary example of coaching.
It's amazing, like Boogie said earlier this year. When they buy into the boring, they keep winning. The team just simply likes to keep things exciting obviously. Gentry has been phenomenal when it's boring. 41-0 is unreal.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:26 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:It's not, at all.
I think that narrative is overrated.
quote:He's good enough to be compared to only the best of the best. He has more of these than Lebron/Curry/KD by a wide margin. Not sure why you'd debate that.
Harden has had SOME clunkers in the playoffs. All players do
quote:I'm not glossing over them. He has good performances like the other best players in the league, and that's awesome. But you can't have 1 or 2 complete stinkers in a big series, and he does that more than the others.
But his good performances have also been glossed over.
quote:In Chrissy we trust!!!
This year, he's got another guy who can make things happen in Chris Paul. He's got guys who can lock down on defense on the other end. So even if he doesn't have his A game, they can still win. Just having another guy like Chris Paul may alleviate some of the ability of teams to key in specifically on him in the playoffs.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:28 pm to SanAntoneAg
quote:Last 3 playoffs, percentage of game scores under 10 compared to overall games played:
To be fair, when was the last time that LBJ, KD, Curry, had a game as bad as Harden's game 6 last year?
- Harden 13.95%
- Lebron 5.08%
- KD 6.06%
- Curry 8.93%
All 5 of Curry's bad games were in the seson he got hurt, including the game he actually got hurt, and he got absolutely crushed for those couple of no shows in the Finals.
But to the point, it happens to Harden more than his peers, I don't know why HOU fans would deny that, it is so.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 1:28 pm to SanAntoneAg
quote:I can remember a time when LeBron was ridiculed for folding in the playoffs.
To be fair, when was the last time that LBJ, KD, Curry, had a game as bad as Harden's game 6 last year?
Curry disappeared from an entire series, but I can't remember when. Was it the Finals when they lost to Cleveland? I think so but I don't specifically remember.
KD has been pretty consistently good I guess, but he never played on a team where he was expected to do everything.
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