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re: Fathers of daughters
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:17 pm to Mr. McStinkington
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:17 pm to Mr. McStinkington
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I have no idea...
I know, your sort rarely do. Here's what I'm talking about.
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If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin. Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. They shall fine him a hundred shekels[a] of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives. If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.
- Deuteronomy 22:13–21
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:18 pm to Vacherie Saint
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But those Muslims
have no bearing whatsoever on what is right
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:19 pm to anc
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Here's the deal for you and those like you. You feel like its your duty to come into any thread that mentions Christian values and deliver your edgy comments. Why?
Because its laughable you'll defend the notion that, unless Jesus came to die for our sins, our daughters need to be stoned to death if they're not virgins on their wedding nights. I thought I made that clear in my first post.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:30 pm to Rougarou13
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So insert whatever your identity is for democrat, and swap out the 500 genders with anything that we have today that was not the norm 2,000 years ago.
shite still works.
Conservative and birth control...
No, that doesn't work. Try again.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:31 pm to Azkiger
John 8:
1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
2 Early in the morning He went back into the temple courts. All the people came to Him, and He sat down to teach them. 3 The scribes and Pharisees, however, brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before them 4 and said, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such a woman. So what do You say?”
6 They said this to test Him, in order to have a basis for accusing Him. But Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with His finger.
7 When they continued to question Him, He straightened up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to cast a stone at her.” 8 And again He bent down and wrote on the ground.
9 When they heard this, they began to go away one by one, beginning with the older ones, until only Jesus was left, with the woman standing there. 10 Then Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are your accusers? Has no one condemned you?”
11 “No one, Lord,” she answered.
“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Now go and sin no more.”
Are you leaving out information based upon a lack of knowledge or are you cherry picking passages that fit your narrative?
The Bible is a large book and complicated in many ways, yet simple at the same time. The context of the entirety of Scripture is key to understanding its meaning. I hope that you will give that genuine consideration and I would be glad to talk with you about it further if you truly wish to.
1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
2 Early in the morning He went back into the temple courts. All the people came to Him, and He sat down to teach them. 3 The scribes and Pharisees, however, brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before them 4 and said, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such a woman. So what do You say?”
6 They said this to test Him, in order to have a basis for accusing Him. But Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with His finger.
7 When they continued to question Him, He straightened up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to cast a stone at her.” 8 And again He bent down and wrote on the ground.
9 When they heard this, they began to go away one by one, beginning with the older ones, until only Jesus was left, with the woman standing there. 10 Then Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are your accusers? Has no one condemned you?”
11 “No one, Lord,” she answered.
“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Now go and sin no more.”
Are you leaving out information based upon a lack of knowledge or are you cherry picking passages that fit your narrative?
The Bible is a large book and complicated in many ways, yet simple at the same time. The context of the entirety of Scripture is key to understanding its meaning. I hope that you will give that genuine consideration and I would be glad to talk with you about it further if you truly wish to.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:32 pm to Azkiger
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Feel free to melt though.
Oh there is definitely a melt occurring in this thread.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:33 pm to Mr. McStinkington
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Are you leaving out information based upon a lack of knowledge or are you cherry picking passages that fit your narrative?
Neither, I'm pointing out that without Jesus, you'd think its moral to stone your daughters who are not virgins on their wedding night, and probably elevate those same old Testament verses high enough to include them in a book as parental advice.
What about that do you disagree with?
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:34 pm to BBONDS25
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Oh there is definitely a melt occurring in this thread.
Some people can't take criticism. For the record I haven't downvoted anyone in this tread ;)
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:36 pm to Azkiger
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Some people can't take criticism
You haven't provided any criticism. You have displayed a very elementary understanding of the topics you are attempting to discuss. But that's about it.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:37 pm to BBONDS25
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You haven't provided any criticism.
I've implied that its wrong to stone girls who are not virgins on their wedding nights and got downvoted for doing so. I'd call that criticism of the Old Testament but if you don't whatever... I've still made my point.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:41 pm to Azkiger
Ok, maybe I misunderstood your original comment.
I don't believe that I would give any consideration to the Bible if it didn't include Jesus. The reason is, that without Jesus, there is no Bible. Without Jesus, there is no morality. Without Jesus, we would be no better than the animals and would operate as such. It would quite literally be a dog eat dog world. Without Jesus, I don't believe I would have any reason to care what any book had to say.
I don't believe that I would give any consideration to the Bible if it didn't include Jesus. The reason is, that without Jesus, there is no Bible. Without Jesus, there is no morality. Without Jesus, we would be no better than the animals and would operate as such. It would quite literally be a dog eat dog world. Without Jesus, I don't believe I would have any reason to care what any book had to say.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:43 pm to Mr. McStinkington
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Without Jesus, I don't believe I would have any reason to care what any book had to say.
There's still God and his original commandments (Old Testament) and they say to stone daughters who aren't virgins on their wedding nights. Don't worry, though, its really good advice! Lets make a book out of it!
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:45 pm to Azkiger
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I've implied that its wrong to stone girls who are not virgins on their wedding nights and got downvoted for doing so.
As I said. Not a criticism. Just a very elementary understanding of the topic. Also a pretty juvenile "debate" tactic. You are getting downvotes because you are disingenuous and ignorant. Mix that with your misplaced hubris and you get downvotes. Also, not the greatest qualities. But hey...you do you.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:47 pm to BBONDS25
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As I said. Not a criticism. Just a very elementary understanding of the topic. Also a pretty juvenile "debate" tactic. You are getting downvotes because your are disingenuous and ignorant. Mix that with your misplaced hubris and you get downvotes. Also. It the greatest qualities. But hey...you do you.
Outside of Jesus, what other "fail safe" is present in Christianity that would prevent the Old Testament prescription of stoning daughters to death over not being virgins on their wedding nights is there?
Asking for a friend, please don't downvote
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:49 pm to BBONDS25
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Also a pretty juvenile "debate" tactic.
I agree, I'll concede this. 100% its very juvenile to protest stoning of non-virgins. Hopefully, once I learn how to be a mature adult, I'll admit that stoning non-virgins is actually moral so long as Jesus didn't come and die for our sins. Which brings me back to my original point where I said as much......
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:49 pm to Azkiger
Why would you need an "outside of Jesus". That's kind of an important part of Christianity. You aren't nearly as smart as you think you are. Your "points" aren't novel or new. If you weren't disingenuous or if you were embarrassed of your ignorance you would do a modicum of research. You won't, though. You would rather remain ignorant and make silly, lazy, and trite remarks. Speaks volumes about you.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:52 pm to BBONDS25
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Why would you need an "outside of Jesus".
Because that's the premise of my original post. If not for Jesus, you would think that its appropriate to stone non-virgins on their wedding nights.
Moreover, you'd use whether or not a girl bled or not as sufficient evidence
As I said, I'm glad yall believe Jesus did what he did, because if not you'd be no different from the backwards Muslims who do much the same (stone for petty reasons).
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:53 pm to anc
yeah, i'd refrain from giving my hypothetic daughters a book written by a married broad who writes blogs about doing butt stuff in her younger years
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:53 pm to Azkiger
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Because that's the premise of my original post.
So you have to create a straw man to win an argument. You have to eliminate Christ from Christianity so you can make your trite remarks. Some reallly high level stuff.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:55 pm to Azkiger
"There's still God and his original commandments (Old Testament) and they say to stone daughters who aren't virgins on their wedding nights. Don't worry, though, its really good advice! Lets make a book out of it!"
No Sir, I don't believe you are right:
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
John 1:14
"And the Word become flesh and made His dwelling among us."
So you see, God is Jesus. Jesus was with God in the beginning. They are not and cannot be separated. There has never been a time when Jesus was non-existent. God's commandments in the Old Testament were Jesus' commandments. They are one in the same.
No Sir, I don't believe you are right:
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
John 1:14
"And the Word become flesh and made His dwelling among us."
So you see, God is Jesus. Jesus was with God in the beginning. They are not and cannot be separated. There has never been a time when Jesus was non-existent. God's commandments in the Old Testament were Jesus' commandments. They are one in the same.
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