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re: Mississippi CWD deer was a local
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:19 pm to Bamadiver
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:19 pm to Bamadiver
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Deer to primate transfer in laboratory conditions has occurred, so...
The conclusions to be drawn from that study are still to be determined. Several before it on macaques came back negative, even injecting the prions directly in the monkey's brains. This one had positives from injection and feeding infected brain tissue and one positive from meat, with the caveat they upped the dosage to much higher than anything that could be encountered just to get the absolute yes or no answer of if it could be transferred to primates. The CDC is amending their stance more or less out of an abundance of caution and the findings are still pretty controversial given the sample size.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:32 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
I am not at my computer but I was be cautious about it. There are studies being done right now on CJD cases right now in regards to CWD being the cause. Also they just discovered a variant of mad cow that is transferred to humans through skin touch and open wounds.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:44 pm to GREENHEAD22
Have there been any cases of predators (coyotes/wolves/bobcats) contracting it?
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:45 pm to GREENHEAD22
I'm not a researcher and am not in a position to be any more educated on it than anyone else, I've just noticed there's a bit of sensationalism when it comes to CWD since people like to deer hunt. Multiple people have brought up the "monkey article" in passing over the last year, people should just know there's an asterisk on that one. They prettymuch did it over and over until they increased the dose enough to get some positives. From what I read it's been known for a long time CWD could be transferred with brain injections to other species but it hadn't received much attention until now, since that isn't exactly a natural vector.
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:55 pm to Shepherd88
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Have there been any cases of predators (coyotes/wolves/bobcats) contracting it?
Nope, but the prion isn't killed by digestion, so scavengers are blamed for spreading and establishing it once it's introduced. I've glanced at some studies that have found predation can reduce the spread of CWD by killing off diseased animals that would live to spread it through contact. Basically, no one knows shite at this point.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 6:07 pm to Shepherd88
That would be some well done back strap.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 7:31 pm to GREENHEAD22
GREENHEAD, I missed your post about your uncle. Where do they think he got is disease from?
Posted on 3/5/18 at 7:34 pm to feverish
just means dear they tested got it from a pen deer
Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:08 pm to lsu13lsu
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Could that deer have gotten it from a non-local deer? Could the cause still be from non-local deer and now local deer are infected?
Yes and it possible that this deer was from Arky, no way to know, deer swim across the river from time to time.
Grew up on the river a bit north of Natchez and have seen a few swim across but who knows how often it really happens.
A lot of unanswer questions
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:14 pm to Shepherd88
MDWFP tweet
Tried to embed this tweet but having a problem. Anyway, MDWFP saying 64 deer tested in the 5 mile zone all tested negative.
Tried to embed this tweet but having a problem. Anyway, MDWFP saying 64 deer tested in the 5 mile zone all tested negative.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:24 pm to GCTigahs
Glad to see that. Curious to see what’s next.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:44 pm to GCTigahs
That's some good news. Here is a quote from the article I posted earlier concerning your question.
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Even if all of the samples come back negative, Walsh said sampling for the disease will continue in the core of the CWD Management Zone.
"We'll continue to collect," Walsh said. "It could be that we collect over 200 more animals to be confident it's at a 1 percent prevalence rate."
However, Walsh was clear in stating that at this point, no one knows how many deer will be killed to determine prevalence and how widespread the disease may be.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:47 pm to 257WBY
They really are not sure, CJD like CWD isnt all that well understood still and is extremely rare. He had a bad accident when he was a teenager that required a ton of blood transfusions. They think he may have picked it up then but it remained dormant. He had been having other health issues and his immune system was down, that and along with the fact that he was older, around 60. The Dr.s and CDC didnt have a lot of info to provide unfortunately.
I cant find the link now but there is a case of three guys who grew up together hunting in Wisconsin or Minnesota area all coming down with it in like a 4 yr period which the chances of that happening are astronomically high. All were older guys around the same age which is when CJD tends to strike because it can have an extremely long incubation period.
I cant find the link now but there is a case of three guys who grew up together hunting in Wisconsin or Minnesota area all coming down with it in like a 4 yr period which the chances of that happening are astronomically high. All were older guys around the same age which is when CJD tends to strike because it can have an extremely long incubation period.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:49 pm to GCTigahs
That is good to hear. I would still like to find out where/how this deer got CWD considering there is no areas remotely close that have it.
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