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re: The Russian Campaign Was Highly Successful

Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:50 am to
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:50 am to
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Um. In 2008, they elected a guy who had the thinnest resume in presidential history who was a raging demagogue

He just demagogued in a way you liked


I knew I was forgetting something - election of a black president.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:52 am to
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I knew I was forgetting something - election of a black president


Meh

Nothing i typed was related to his blackness but you liberals are basically Pavlovs dogs.

Negative comment about Obama

Woof woof.....racist....woof
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:54 am to
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careers of public service in elected office
Yeah, okay

January 8, 1997 – November 4, 2004
January 3, 2005 – November 16, 2008

Might as well give him a Nobel Peace Prize while we are at it.

Oops.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9915 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:56 am to
Don't be sore, Rob.

But Trump simply wouldn't have had a political career without peddling birtherism or succeeding an African American President.

And see Wolfhound's example above. Obama has a similar public career to JFK - and yet he's the example of illegitimacy. Trump's the outlier.
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 7:58 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:58 am to
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But Trump simply wouldn't have had a political career without peddling birtherism or succeeding an African American President

So says you

Of course. Obama probably loses at least the 2nd time if the ENTIRE narrative wasn't that opposing him = racism

Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13300 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:59 am to
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There’s nothing they really can say. After months of making fun of the idea of Russian influence 


How pathetic.

Your team has been reduced to blaming an election loss on Facebook memes.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9915 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:00 am to
Race is the original sin of American democracy. Our politics are roiled by being a generation away from becoming a majority minority country. Of course race is a major political issue.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:01 am to
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But Trump simply wouldn't have had a political career without peddling birtherism or succeeding an African American President


Trump also probably doesn't win if that black president doesn't spend 8 years marginalizing a group previously in the Democrat tent and then you nominated one of the least talented politicians in world history
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124653 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:01 am to
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I wouldn't call an effective margin of 78,000 votes in 3 states "handily", but he won for a lot of reasons. An unpopular opponent. Effective demagoguery. Good social media campaigning. A Republican electorate sick of traditional Republicans. Democratic deconsolidation. An American electorate frustrated with conventional candidates. Dysfunctional Congress. A slow recovery. FBI director involving himself in an election. A Russian interference campaign. All of it.
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American electorate frustrated with conventional candidates.
This is the answer. The rest is marginally true at best. The reasons you hate Trump are the exact reasons he was elected.
For the most part, Tigerdoc seems spot on. We could debate "demagogue", and we could certainly debate it relative to Obama and/or Clinton. IMO "an unpopular opponent" was the chief reason Trump won. But I'd agree with him regarding reasons for the 11/16 outcome.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74939 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:01 am to
You and olddawgshite look like fools in this thread
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:01 am to
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Race is the original sin of American democracy. Our politics are roiled by being a generation away from becoming a majority minority country. Of course race is a major political issue


It's all you see

It might as well be a blindfold
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:02 am to
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But Trump simply wouldn't have had a political career without peddling birtherism or succeeding an African American President.
Trump would not have been elected President if he had not run against the absolute worst Democratic candidate in modern history

And as far as President Obama, come on. President Kennedy served heroically in World War II and then was elected U.S. Senator. The resume of President Obama is thin in that regard and yet you just had to be disingenuous and say that all of the previous 44 presidents had a particular type of career and then contrast it to President Trump and refer to him as a demagogue. Talk about a dishonest argument.

Keep it up bro. It makes you happy and that is all I want.
Posted by Humanelement
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
1366 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:05 am to
Let’s not forget that it was and is you frick, cucks on the left that swallowed this shite hook,line and sinker and along with your propaganda arm the MSM have spewing and regurgitating this Russian Trump collusion bull shite along. So far what we have is an elaborate scheme to get you fricks rliled up over some fake planted shite and guess what you guys a Swallowed the whole goddam thing so STU
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 8:07 am
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9915 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:06 am to
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It's all you see


It's not. See the post of mine above that NC Tigah mostly endorsed.

But we are having a national panic attack at whites on their way to minority status.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:06 am to
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Keep it up bro. It makes you happy and that is all I want


He gave reality away in his next post

For him. Race is a blindfold

He can see nothing else

But calls us racists
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24644 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:06 am to
I’ve made multiple points and asked questions that no one is touching. The only response was that I’m dumb and the I believe in climate change. I hope you realize I won.
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 8:08 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:07 am to
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But we are having a national panic attack at whites on their way to minority status


Like i said. It might a well be a blindfold
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 8:09 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74939 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:08 am to
You always win even when you lose
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9915 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:08 am to
Disagree. Trump's the only President to have never served in elected office or the military. Obama is utterly conventional in almost every since besides his race - two Ivy League degrees. State House and Congressional service.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124653 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:08 am to
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But Trump simply wouldn't have had a political career without peddling birtherism or succeeding an African American President.
That is 100% false.

Birtherism was invited by Obama. It was fertilized by obama. Obama's heritage had quite a bit to do with him getting elected, but virtually nothing to do with Trump's ascent.

The influence Obama exercised was in his continual snarky belittling of DJT, and his promotion of obamanomics
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