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re: Are there really 300 mass shootings per year in the US?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:46 pm to JimboFisherAM
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:46 pm to JimboFisherAM
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If you believe the right, every Mexican male crossing the border is coming to rape your women.
Not everyone of them but statistically they are more prone to commit rape. Not sure how you can deny cold hard facts.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:52 pm to JimboFisherAM
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If you believe the right, every Mexican male crossing the border is coming to rape your women.
I doubt that, but if they are a criminal, and their mere presence on American soil without proper authorization is a crime, they need to go back. They dont have to commit any other crimes to deserve deportation. Being here illegally is a crime and the punishment is deportation.
I believe that laws should be changed so that after their first apprehension they are finger printed, DNA tested, and have a retinal scan. Then they are deported. If they ever are caught inside the United States again without papers the penalty should be death. No extenuating circumstances should matter. If they re-enter again illegally... death.
That would stop 99.9% of this criminal behavior.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:53 pm to stout
As many have stated the number of victims needs to be 3 or more in order to qualify as a "mass shooting". If you use that definition then maybe. It is like the definition of serial killers. According to the FBI, a serial killer is someone who commits at least three murders over more than a month with an emotional cooling off period in between. Makes you feel like serial killers/mass shootings aren't "as bad".
I just read an article that states we have had 18 school shootings this year. The number sounds high and maybe the definition is "gun gets fired with the intent to do harm", bur does it matter what the definition is? I know I would be destroyed if it was my child who was injured/killed in a shooting incident.
I just read an article that states we have had 18 school shootings this year. The number sounds high and maybe the definition is "gun gets fired with the intent to do harm", bur does it matter what the definition is? I know I would be destroyed if it was my child who was injured/killed in a shooting incident.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:55 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Libtards want to use a standard that law enforcement don't use for mass shooting, because law enforcement exclude all shootings associated with gang, drug, and other criminal activity that have multiple shooting victims. Fbi used the term like everybody thinks it means, for these one off events not tired to anything else. The libtards like their version though because it let's them use all kinds of wrong stats, like less than 10 percent of mass shootings occur in gun free zones. Where the actual stat is that +97% of mass shootings as defined by law enforcement and the fbi occur in gun free zones.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:56 pm to stout
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Not everyone of them but statistically they are more prone to commit rape. Not sure how you can deny cold hard facts.
Name one cold hard fact with a source.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:59 pm to OhGill
Right, so a dude brings a gun to school and shoots a guy he has beef with. That is technically a "school shooting" but is misleading in the stats.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 5:00 pm to stout
You're not serious.
From the bureau of justice statistics:
Violent victimization includes rape or sexual assault, robbery,
aggravated assault, and simple assault.
From the bureau of justice statistics:
quote:
Of the nearly 3.7 million violent victimizations committed
against white victims during 2012-15, a total of 57% were
committed by white offenders, 15% by black offenders, and
11% by Hispanic offenders. Similarly, the majority of the
850,720 violent victimizations committed against black
victims involved black offenders (63%), followed by white
(11%) and Hispanic (7%) offenders. Forty percent of violent
victimizations committed against Hispanic victims were
committed by Hispanic offenders, while white and black
offenders each committed 20% of victimizations against
Hispanic victims.
Violent victimization includes rape or sexual assault, robbery,
aggravated assault, and simple assault.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 5:03 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Absolutely it is misleading, but I also find that it is a slippery slope to downplay the definitions as it also downplays the actions/crimes in a way.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 5:04 pm to OhGill
Maybe not just rape but...
DACA-age illegals far more likely to commit crimes, be in jail
Hmmmm.....
DACA-age illegals far more likely to commit crimes, be in jail
quote:
A new report about crimes committed by illegals finds that younger undocumented immigrants who were eligible for former President Obama’s DACA amnesty program commit far more crimes than other immigrants or U.S. citizens.
Hmmmm.....
Posted on 2/15/18 at 5:13 pm to OhGill
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Absolutely it is misleading, but I also find that it is a slippery slope to downplay the definitions as it also downplays the actions/crimes in a way.
Any shooting is bad, but "school shooting" and "a shooting at a school" are two totally different things.
If a gang fight or drug deal spills over into the school hallways, that's a whole other animal than some psycho trying to take out a bunch of people and then kill himself.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 5:18 pm to stout
While not all Hispanics are undocumented immigrants, the majority of undocumented immigrants are Hispanic so the data will disproportionately show that if an undocumented immigrant is committing a crime, then they are likely to be of Hispanic descent.
I also find fault in the data as it is using crime statistics from Arizona - a state with a high population of Hispanics. You can't extrapolate data from a diverse state like Arizona and then make a general statement that it applies to all of the U.S. This is like taking crime statistics from Idaho and saying white men in the entire U.S are most likely to commit homicide.
Look, it is a tale as old as time. According to FBI statistics, black males are still most likely to commit a violent crime. This is not accounting for the crimes registered where race is not listed.
I also find fault in the data as it is using crime statistics from Arizona - a state with a high population of Hispanics. You can't extrapolate data from a diverse state like Arizona and then make a general statement that it applies to all of the U.S. This is like taking crime statistics from Idaho and saying white men in the entire U.S are most likely to commit homicide.
Look, it is a tale as old as time. According to FBI statistics, black males are still most likely to commit a violent crime. This is not accounting for the crimes registered where race is not listed.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 5:20 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Maybe
But black lives don’t matter
But black lives don’t matter
Posted on 2/15/18 at 5:52 pm to OhGill
quote:
I just read an article that states we have had 18 school shootings this year. The number sounds high and maybe the definition is "gun gets fired with the intent to do harm", bur does it matter what the definition is? I know I would be destroyed if it was my child who was injured/killed in a shooting incident.
Over the last 30 years 371 students of all ages were killed in school shootings, every death is a tragedy, but to put it into perspective over the same 30 years 70,000 teenage drivers age 16-19 were killed in accidents, that being the number one cause of death among teenagers.
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