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re: When will society accept that college isn’t for everybody?

Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:03 am to
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:03 am to
Private trade schools could he a huge money maker. I'm surprised that hasn't happened yet. And I don't mean the shitty trade schools you see in commercials.

But a professionally run and professionally presented university that teaches Plumbing, electrical, hvac, welding, etc... alongside some basic business skills and critical thinking.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21953 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:20 am to
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But a professionally run and professionally presented university that teaches Plumbing, electrical, hvac, welding, etc... alongside some basic business skills and critical thinking.




I'm 40. When I was in H.S. we had the option of going to Vo-Tech our Jr. and/or Senior year. You could take Auto Body Repair, Mechanics, Drafting, Electrical, Carpentry, Nursing or Food Service. I ended up taking drafting for one year and although I didn't get a job drafting out of HS it did help me in my career as a fitter. Did that for 15 years and now I have a job as a draftsman. I have a few friends who own their electrical repair companies who took electrical at VoTech. One of the biggest and best home builders in Houma took Carpentry there as well.

There's nothing wrong with not having a college degree. A will to work, not being a complete dumbass and being able to pass a drug screen can still go pretty far in todays job market.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4471 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:27 am to
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Private trade schools could he a huge money maker. I'm surprised that hasn't happened yet. And I don't mean the shitty trade schools you see in commercials.

But a professionally run and professionally presented university that teaches Plumbing, electrical, hvac, welding, etc... alongside some basic business skills and critical thinking.


As I entertain your statement, my first thought was "Who are the teachers at these schools?". Would a private trade school recruit people in the trades industry, and what would comparable pay and benefits look like to persuade these potential teachers to leave their jobs (or private businesses)? And who determines/certifies who would be a good teacher in a professional trades University? Would the teachers need to earn a teaching degree from a college or university to develop an accreditation process for the school? This is not an attack on the idea, but rather just some of the questions that need answers for a viable outcome.

I say this as someone who went to college but really liked my HS auto shop classes. I just didn't see the risk/reward working in my favor to apply and commit myself to becoming a master mechanic for a high-performance or luxury auto manufacturer. I knew if I wanted to be have a chance of owning a successful auto business would require classes in business administration (which I did not want to do), and going to a auto tech school would require an expensive up-front cost for tools and books (which would have probably required loans to cover the cost). I was aware that high pay was a possibility, but opportunity was much lower compared to other opportunities with a college degree.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:30 am to
My cousin is a plumber in Queens. Makes damn good money doing it too and he’s not even running his own business yet. He hated school. Now makes more than some NYU graduates
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
3552 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:12 am to
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But a professionally run and professionally presented university that teaches Plumbing, electrical, hvac, welding, etc... alongside some basic business skills and critical thinking.


It's called community college
Posted by StarkRebel
Member since Sep 2014
2175 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:47 am to
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Plumbing


I paid 2K about a month ago to have a new pipe ran in my yard that had ruptured. He spent 7 hours working in total. 2K in a day and he wasn't even done working for said day.
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