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Leaving for Paris this week.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:04 pm
So I leave for Paris this week with my wife who is 8 weeks pregnant (no wine for her). I’ll have 8 full days to do whatever in Paris......and we don’t really have a set plan. We booked it back when that deal was like $500 round trip, and work life happened and we didn’t really plan anything for any set day.
So does anyone have any advice on interesting things to do out of the ordinary, or any day trips that you’d recommend? We are open to any idea, minus activities that are specifically revloing around alcohol.
So does anyone have any advice on interesting things to do out of the ordinary, or any day trips that you’d recommend? We are open to any idea, minus activities that are specifically revloing around alcohol.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:18 pm to Indfanfromcol
Giverny - Monet's Garden, bu I'm not sure what is there in the winter, Chartes, Rouen - Joan of Arc, Normandy, Champagne. Check train schedules to see length of trips. Oops, i guess Champagne is a no go.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:22 pm to r3lay3r
Ha yeah, Champagne is out. Which was a big one for us. We booked this back in November and then found out she was pregnant after a day of tequila shots at the Mexican restaurant at Christmas Eve lunch.
We might do a day trip to the palace of versailles. We’re going to buy a 6 day Paris museum pass that includes there. But we’re wondering if we should consider something else or do two day trips.
We might do a day trip to the palace of versailles. We’re going to buy a 6 day Paris museum pass that includes there. But we’re wondering if we should consider something else or do two day trips.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:16 pm to Indfanfromcol
We went a few years back. We rented a 50cc moped for the day and traveled the whole city. Mopeds have the right of way and it is a fantastic way to explore. We even made a few laps around the Arc De Triomph. Probably my most vivid memory of the trip.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:27 pm to r3lay3r
Monet’s gardens at Giverny are closed for the winter.
Regarding museums:
The museum pass is nice because you get to skip the line most places, but you really have to be a hardcore museum-goer (I am) to get your money’s worth. To me, much of the joy of Paris is walking, looking, hanging out in cafes, etc. So don’t OD on museums just to feel you got your money’s worth. It does cover highlights like the Louvre, Arc de Triomphe, etc. On the other hand, if the weather turns crappy, it can be nice to museum hop and stay mostly out of the rain. Of those covered by the pass, I’d put these at the top of your list:
—Louvre, but decide which highlights you really want to see. It is vast, confusing to navigate, and is in the European tradition of little/no descriptive text or explanations. Still, well worth the long security line (get a coffee and go to the bathroom before you get in line, as their are long bathroom lines inside) to see Winged Victory, the Venus de Milo, the monumental paintings of David, Ingres, etc, the Mona Lisa (through a thick crowd, behind glass), and a zillion other precious objects. It connects to an underground mall with an exit to the Tuileries garden; it can be nice to spend a morning in the museum, then have a simple sandwich at one of the cafes in the garden.
—the Orangerie, for Monet’s late period water lily paintings. You’ve seen so many bad reproductions on shirts, umbrellas, prints, etc. To see the real thing, in the round, is a singular experience.
—Arc de Triomphe at dusk. Time it right, and you can walk down the Champs Elysees, arrive to climb all those steps, see the last of the sun and hang around on top until the Eiffel Tower puts on its light show.
—Musee de Cluny: medieval art; stained glass, tapestries, statuary, etc. Cool building on the site of the ancient abbey de Cluny.
—Saints-Chapelle; amazing, unbelievable stained glass...you have to go through security since it’s in the middle of police/judicial buildings, but so worth the line & effort. Go early and on a sunny day if possible.
—archaeology crypt beneath Notre Dame; cool exhibits in multi languages and a glimpse at the Roman foundations of Paris.
—Musee de Rodin; indoor exhibits (Thinker, the Kiss) plus a nice outdoor sculpture garden full of roses & trees.
—Musee D’Orsay, for the Impressionists. Has a nice cafe on the top floor with views of Montmartre.
—Tomb of Napoleon/Museum of the Arny; if you like knights, armor, weaponry, warfare, it’s overflowing with that stuff. Knowing a little French helps, plenty of text/explanations, but none in English. Napoelon’s tomb is ornate, polychrome marble in a temple-like church.
Regarding museums:
The museum pass is nice because you get to skip the line most places, but you really have to be a hardcore museum-goer (I am) to get your money’s worth. To me, much of the joy of Paris is walking, looking, hanging out in cafes, etc. So don’t OD on museums just to feel you got your money’s worth. It does cover highlights like the Louvre, Arc de Triomphe, etc. On the other hand, if the weather turns crappy, it can be nice to museum hop and stay mostly out of the rain. Of those covered by the pass, I’d put these at the top of your list:
—Louvre, but decide which highlights you really want to see. It is vast, confusing to navigate, and is in the European tradition of little/no descriptive text or explanations. Still, well worth the long security line (get a coffee and go to the bathroom before you get in line, as their are long bathroom lines inside) to see Winged Victory, the Venus de Milo, the monumental paintings of David, Ingres, etc, the Mona Lisa (through a thick crowd, behind glass), and a zillion other precious objects. It connects to an underground mall with an exit to the Tuileries garden; it can be nice to spend a morning in the museum, then have a simple sandwich at one of the cafes in the garden.
—the Orangerie, for Monet’s late period water lily paintings. You’ve seen so many bad reproductions on shirts, umbrellas, prints, etc. To see the real thing, in the round, is a singular experience.
—Arc de Triomphe at dusk. Time it right, and you can walk down the Champs Elysees, arrive to climb all those steps, see the last of the sun and hang around on top until the Eiffel Tower puts on its light show.
—Musee de Cluny: medieval art; stained glass, tapestries, statuary, etc. Cool building on the site of the ancient abbey de Cluny.
—Saints-Chapelle; amazing, unbelievable stained glass...you have to go through security since it’s in the middle of police/judicial buildings, but so worth the line & effort. Go early and on a sunny day if possible.
—archaeology crypt beneath Notre Dame; cool exhibits in multi languages and a glimpse at the Roman foundations of Paris.
—Musee de Rodin; indoor exhibits (Thinker, the Kiss) plus a nice outdoor sculpture garden full of roses & trees.
—Musee D’Orsay, for the Impressionists. Has a nice cafe on the top floor with views of Montmartre.
—Tomb of Napoleon/Museum of the Arny; if you like knights, armor, weaponry, warfare, it’s overflowing with that stuff. Knowing a little French helps, plenty of text/explanations, but none in English. Napoelon’s tomb is ornate, polychrome marble in a temple-like church.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:35 pm to Indfanfromcol
Following up:
Day trip to Versailles is easy and can be fun, if you enjoy wandering around vast formal gardens. I found the chateau horribly, unpleasantly overcrowded, but enjoyed the gardens, the Petit Trianon, and the Hameau (Marie Antoinette’s little play village/farm).
Honestly, if you have 8 full days, you don’t really need a day trip, unless you are seriously afflicted by itchy feet. Paris is so full of sights, you won’t run out of things to see. You can visit various neighborhoods, go to Pere Lachaise cemetery, climb up to Montmartre (go watch the movie Amelie in prep), tour the catacombs, and beaucoup other things that aren’t museums. Also, strolling the market streets of Rue Cler or Rue Montorgueil, eating pastries and chocolate at every opportunity....
I really enjoyed Le Relais de Comptoir, and the companion tapas place Avant de Comptoir, on my last visit in October. They’re near the Odeon on the Rive Gauche.
In which arrondisment are you staying?
Last but not least, I had some of the best chocolate of my life at Alain Ducasse’s manufactory In the Bastille neighborhood. Incredible bars full of praline. I wish I’d brought back more of them, despite the price.
Day trip to Versailles is easy and can be fun, if you enjoy wandering around vast formal gardens. I found the chateau horribly, unpleasantly overcrowded, but enjoyed the gardens, the Petit Trianon, and the Hameau (Marie Antoinette’s little play village/farm).
Honestly, if you have 8 full days, you don’t really need a day trip, unless you are seriously afflicted by itchy feet. Paris is so full of sights, you won’t run out of things to see. You can visit various neighborhoods, go to Pere Lachaise cemetery, climb up to Montmartre (go watch the movie Amelie in prep), tour the catacombs, and beaucoup other things that aren’t museums. Also, strolling the market streets of Rue Cler or Rue Montorgueil, eating pastries and chocolate at every opportunity....
I really enjoyed Le Relais de Comptoir, and the companion tapas place Avant de Comptoir, on my last visit in October. They’re near the Odeon on the Rive Gauche.
In which arrondisment are you staying?
Last but not least, I had some of the best chocolate of my life at Alain Ducasse’s manufactory In the Bastille neighborhood. Incredible bars full of praline. I wish I’d brought back more of them, despite the price.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:36 pm to Indfanfromcol
Versailles is a worthwhile excursion, easy train ride. Chartes is known for its Cathedral, which is a UNESCO World Heritage site with impressive stain glass. About an hour southwest of Paris by train.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:45 pm to Indfanfromcol
You could easily enjoy 8 days in Paris without venturing farther than walking (or at least metro)distance from your hotel. I consider it the greatest restaurant city in the world, although this gets us back to the wine issue. I also consider it the greatest museum city in the world. The Louvre, D'Orsay, Marmotan, L'Orangerie, Rodin, Invalides just to name a few. The list goes on and on. I like to just walk the streets and soak in the atmosphere. I have taken day trips by train to Chareres, Reims, Givernay and Versailles. There are things to do in Champagne country other than taste Champagne. Reims (like Chartres)has one of the most beautiful and historic cathedrals you will ever see. If your wife likes Champagne but does not want to drink it, discretely using the spit buckets is totally acceptable. Just a thought.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:17 pm to hungryone

Thanks for all the info so far guys. Loving the input and it is much needed and appreciated. We are staying at an Airbnb near Norte Dame in the Le Marias neighborhood. When we first booked everything, it looked like a good area to be at.
For those that have been, was there any off beaten place you went to or ate at that was just very memorable? With a kid on the way, who knows if I’ll ever get to do a trip like this again. Would love to make the most out of it (and probably should have done more research than just now).
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 9:12 am
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:44 pm to Indfanfromcol
The Marais is a great neighborhood. Lots of shops, plenty of restaurants, and decent transportation access. Quick list of food in the Marais:
—Breizh Cafe (read more here: LINK
—Poilane bakery: LINK
—Du Pain et des Idees (bread and ideas), another bakery: LINK
—Marche des Enfants Rouges, a covered outdoor market with beaucoup prepared food stalls (paella, among many other choices). 39 Rue de Bretagne
—L’As du Felafel, and the other felafel stand next door. People go nuts for this place, but I prefer Maoz on the other side of the river.
—if you’re looking for cheap eats and an evening stroll, the rue St Andre des Arts (rive Gauche, just off of boulevard St Michel) is full of studenty-takeout places, where you can walk up to a window and get something tasty and cheap to eat on the street. Lebanese wraps, crepes, felafel, etc. It can be a nice change of pace after a big lunch or lots of formal dining.
—if you want steak frites and nothing else, le Relais de Entrecôte, on rue St Benoit, just past the Cafe Flore off of Boulevard St Germain, is a hoot of a place. No choices: you get a salad, wine if you want, and then as much thinly sliced, rare to medium beef in a herby butter sauce and french fries. C’est tout. When you clean your plate, you get a second serving...and presumably a third, but who can eat that much buttery beef and fries? There is a dessert list, with plenty of choices.
Another tip: download the City Mapper app. It is great for Paris, put in any two addresses and it will map out the various ways to get there (public transit on subway, or bus, or taxi, or walking), with arrival time and distance estimates. Hopefully your AirBnB has free wi-fi, or you need to budget for some overseas data (Verizon charges a $10/day activation fee, plus you use your data from your existing data plan). Don’t be afraid to take the bus; you’ll see more than you would in the Metro...
Don’t sweat it—it’s Paris. As long as you’re not looking for great coffee, everything else will be better than you expect. You can never go wrong popping into a bakery for a croissant, sandwich, or pastry.
—Breizh Cafe (read more here: LINK
—Poilane bakery: LINK
—Du Pain et des Idees (bread and ideas), another bakery: LINK
—Marche des Enfants Rouges, a covered outdoor market with beaucoup prepared food stalls (paella, among many other choices). 39 Rue de Bretagne
—L’As du Felafel, and the other felafel stand next door. People go nuts for this place, but I prefer Maoz on the other side of the river.
—if you’re looking for cheap eats and an evening stroll, the rue St Andre des Arts (rive Gauche, just off of boulevard St Michel) is full of studenty-takeout places, where you can walk up to a window and get something tasty and cheap to eat on the street. Lebanese wraps, crepes, felafel, etc. It can be a nice change of pace after a big lunch or lots of formal dining.
—if you want steak frites and nothing else, le Relais de Entrecôte, on rue St Benoit, just past the Cafe Flore off of Boulevard St Germain, is a hoot of a place. No choices: you get a salad, wine if you want, and then as much thinly sliced, rare to medium beef in a herby butter sauce and french fries. C’est tout. When you clean your plate, you get a second serving...and presumably a third, but who can eat that much buttery beef and fries? There is a dessert list, with plenty of choices.
Another tip: download the City Mapper app. It is great for Paris, put in any two addresses and it will map out the various ways to get there (public transit on subway, or bus, or taxi, or walking), with arrival time and distance estimates. Hopefully your AirBnB has free wi-fi, or you need to budget for some overseas data (Verizon charges a $10/day activation fee, plus you use your data from your existing data plan). Don’t be afraid to take the bus; you’ll see more than you would in the Metro...
Don’t sweat it—it’s Paris. As long as you’re not looking for great coffee, everything else will be better than you expect. You can never go wrong popping into a bakery for a croissant, sandwich, or pastry.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:48 pm to Indfanfromcol
Paris is probably one of the best cities in the world to visit with little to no plans. If you just wake up and pick a part of the city to explore you will have an amazing trip.
I'm not trying to tell you to have your wife drink, but there's nothing wrong with having a couple sips of wine when you are pregnant. I would be all means explore Champagne, let her enjoy a small tasting, and enjoy Paris. The Europeans turned out alright and booze is about all they drank for centuries and centuries.
I'm not trying to tell you to have your wife drink, but there's nothing wrong with having a couple sips of wine when you are pregnant. I would be all means explore Champagne, let her enjoy a small tasting, and enjoy Paris. The Europeans turned out alright and booze is about all they drank for centuries and centuries.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:50 pm to Indfanfromcol
You are looking for a small, out of the way, restaurant in the Marais District? I have one for you. Le Temps des Cerises. It is on rue de la Creises which is a side street just off Blvd Henry V between the Bastille and the back of Ile St. Louis, which should be an easy walk from where you are staying. We discovered this place while staying at an apartment on rue Castex a block away. We ate there twice. The people were nice, the food was delicious and the vibe is just what you are looking for in an atmospheric back street Parisian bistro.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:00 pm to geauxpurple
One other piece of dining advice for Le Marias. For lunch on a nice day get a falafel sandwich from the take out window at L'As du Fallafel on rue Rosiere and eat it at a park bench on the oldest square in Paris, Place Vosges, a couple of blocks away.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 8:19 am to hungryone
awesome list man...we are leaving valentines day and have been trying to plan it out, but that just helped a lot with my museum questions. 

Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:21 am to auzach91
Again, make a plan for the Louvre. Seriously. It is overwhelmingly large, crowded, confusing, and can be terribly frustrating unless you plot out a course. Look at the website & online maps, wear your walking shoes, plan your bathroom breaks....have talked to so many disappointed people who were overwhelmed, wandered aimlessly, saw little, and left without appreciating its incredible treasures.
All of this Paris thread has me craving a croque monsieur, a thick chocolate chaud, and wishing I could pop out for a croissant.
All of this Paris thread has me craving a croque monsieur, a thick chocolate chaud, and wishing I could pop out for a croissant.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:50 pm to Indfanfromcol
What Arrondissement are you staying in? Not that it matters much because the Metro is excellent. A lot of the time, you don't need to venture far in Paris to have a great trip.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 5:55 pm to hungryone
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Again, make a plan for the Louvre. Seriously. It is overwhelmingly large, crowded, confusing, and can be terribly frustrating unless you plot out a course.
The key is getting there early. It helps that it's winter time but they're having a ton of flooding right now because of the rain.
The Mona Lisa is always hard to get to the front of the crowd, mostly Asian tourists, to see up close. That's the absolute worst area of the Louvre though.
One of my favorite things is Hotel des Invalides, particularly Napoleon's tomb. The Pantheon is also really interesting to visit.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 8:05 pm to hungryone
fantastic itinerary recommendations. rue cler is a must see. walk st germain from the river. walk the jewish and latin quarters. montmartre. st sulspice church. river cruise. invalides. have a jabon and baguette sandwich while sitting at the gardens by the louvre.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 8:13 pm to Indfanfromcol
Sacré-Cœur
It's the best view in all of Paris. Taxi to the top, then walk down though the streets of Montmarte. There's art, food, and great little shops to entertain your wife.
Louvre
Here's the trick. Go on a Friday night around 6pm. Everyone is at dinner, and there's literally no line.... I walked to the Mona Lisa in maybe 10 min from the check-in.
It's open until like 9pm, so there's plenty of time to hit the high points.... Don't waste too much time at the Louvre.
It's the best view in all of Paris. Taxi to the top, then walk down though the streets of Montmarte. There's art, food, and great little shops to entertain your wife.
Louvre
Here's the trick. Go on a Friday night around 6pm. Everyone is at dinner, and there's literally no line.... I walked to the Mona Lisa in maybe 10 min from the check-in.
It's open until like 9pm, so there's plenty of time to hit the high points.... Don't waste too much time at the Louvre.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 1/22/18 at 8:15 pm to Indfanfromcol
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We might do a day trip to the palace of versailles.
I don't know what it's like in January but in more crowded times of the year get there really early or it's way too crowded to enjoy.
Already said but I loved the Montmartre area.
Versailles doesn't take a whole day. For a true day trip I'd do Normandy if you have any interest whatsoever in history.
Paris is amazing.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 8:21 pm
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