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Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:32 pm to Tigerdev
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Amnesty plus enforcement is not only smart politics...it's reasonable.
what does the GOP get in return, since this is literally the entire DEM demand?
end to birthright citizenship?
stricter enforcement of all other undocumented people without ever lossening the regs on immigration?
ending the illegal practice of sanctuary cities?
there has to be a negotiation or it's not reasonable. what aspects of immigration are the DEMs willing to bend on?
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:34 pm to MastrShake
Let's set immigration policy based on some artist's poem!
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:36 pm to Tigerdev
Except it's always the same: amnesty now, sometime in the future, enforcement. And then just no enforcement.
We've heard this song and dance before.
We've heard this song and dance before.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:38 pm to Tigerdev
quote:
Amnesty plus enforcement is not only smart politics...it's reasonable.
1986 called...
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:This is good policy. For everyone. Separating deportation from enforcement makes sense.
what does the GOP get in return
quote:No political bills should be part of budget reconciliation. I said this during Obama and nearly everyone on the opposing side had a different view point than they do now. Dems fricked up on this.
since this is literally the entire DEM demand?
quote:Seems wrong to be born in America and not be a citizen. Country of immigrants and all that...
end to birthright citizenship?
quote:This is an overblown problem...more political than impactful. But sure...
ending the illegal practice of sanctuary cities?
quote:Welcome to post-2008 America. Your side helped make this bed. We are all fricked.
there has to be a negotiation or it's not reasonable.
quote:Enforcement.
what aspects of immigration are the DEMs willing to bend on?
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:45 pm to cokebottleag
quote:How about amnesty now. Enforcement now?
Except it's always the same: amnesty now, sometime in the future, enforcement.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:00 pm to Tigerdev
quote:
Your side helped make this bed
All those libertarians in major positions...
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if you don't like the outcome of a legal system, then change the actual legal system. don't ignore parts you don't like to make yourself feel better
That was in response to a call for them to be imprisoned.
You get triggered much?
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
All Dems care about is ensuring a new underclass voting base in border states. That’s it. Nobody cares about families, neither side. This is about votes. Brass tax.
If they pass a DACA bill with no voting rights, ensuring legal standing with mandate to pay taxes and be part of the system, there would be a court case challenging the right to vote in about .034 months from passage.
This is a game for the Dems. They want brown votes. That’s it.
If they pass a DACA bill with no voting rights, ensuring legal standing with mandate to pay taxes and be part of the system, there would be a court case challenging the right to vote in about .034 months from passage.
This is a game for the Dems. They want brown votes. That’s it.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:06 am to YoungManOldMan
Amnesty for daca is blanket amnesty for all how are you going to prove who was brought here “through no fault of their own”. We will all find out it’s a shell game with the American taxpayer as the patsie as soon as the 9 th circuit court gets involved. I hope the president doesn’t fall for this load of bologna
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:16 am to YoungManOldMan
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Brass tax
Brass tacks
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:56 am to SlowFlowPro
Libertarians vote for Republicans in major elections at a rate similar to self identified Republicans... Look it up sir...
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:01 am to Tigerdev
quote:Wrong....Obama did very well in 2008 with libertarians angry about war and surveillance.
Libertarians vote for Republicans in major elections at a rate similar to self identified Republicans... Look it up sir...
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:02 am to Tigerdev
quote:
This is good policy. For everyone. Separating deportation from enforcement makes sense.
How does it help those competing against them for jobs or education, especially when they want to fill a diversity quota? How is it good for those that immigrated here legally & paid lots of money? How is it good for the country when foreigners see that they will be given amnesty as long as they can get here & hide out long enough?
IMO, after the DACA kids are given amnesty, dems will call for all illegals to have amnesty. Then, 10-20 years from now, they will call for amnesty for the new batch of illegals.
quote:
Seems wrong to be born in America and not be a citizen. Country of immigrants and all that...
No, it's wrong to be citizen of a country simply because you were born there when neither of your parents were citizens. In how many other nations are you given citizenship simply because your mom was within its borders when giving birth?
quote:
This is an overblown problem...more political than impactful.
Is it? We have judges in sanctuary cities releasing criminals back onto the streets, because it would be too mean to deport them. I'm sure their new victims & their families will disagree with you.
quote:
We are all fricked.
Indeed we are when the value of illegal aliens is considered greater than actual citizens.
quote:
Enforcement.
Democrats will graciously agree to enforce laws after all their demands are met? How generous.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:17 am to Jbird
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Who penned that poem?
Oh this is now the standard? Who wrote the pledge of allegiance??? A fricking socialist...
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:26 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
71 percent for mccain... Please go back to shilling for your new Trumpkin friends. We can chat again when you get your balls back....
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:56 am to chickenpotpie
Diversity quotas? You need to stop reading conservative news. I have never met an intelligent educated white guy who couldnt find a job in my life. Its going to be ok.
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