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****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad

Posted on 1/5/18 at 1:55 pm
Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
1738 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 1:55 pm
****Update I will just say this so we do not have to start another thread.


Underwhelming/ Bad hire is real close like real close. Get vocal if you want to avoid this!

#bringYurcichtoLSU

This distinction needs fo be made.

Bottomline is LSU fan base want the young gun that is fast tracking.

Ensminger and Sullivan are NOT bad hires!!! They would just be underwhelming for a fan base that want the hot shot.

I would not protest this hirer but will not be happy. However, O’s would have even less rope.

This would be a safe hire for O. O cannot afford fo whiff twice. This hire would not be a whiff. It would basically ensure O did not decline further. If a young gun comes in and whiffs, everyone is gone!

It is really risk vs reward plan. Seem like failing to go for it on 4th and an inch. O’s logic was not wrong, just not the best choice. If D stops ND, then people will shut up, but because they didnt the backlash was really bad. This situation seems similar. If it works people will be content but if the offense falterings at all, The mob is comming.



***ETA

I am just giving my opinion. I will not be happy if this does transpire. I am just sayng the status quo of 8-9 wins will be maintained. A BAD HIRE WOULD DROP US FROM THIS MARK. I dont believe we would get worse just not better.


The status quo will still show O the door! So relax! I love Lsu to much to regress even further. I would rather fhe next coach inherit a 9 win team rather than non-bowl team
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 3:47 pm
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 1:56 pm to
This is garbage pure and simple.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79259 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 1:57 pm to
How is hiring a guy who hasn’t been a full time OC for 20 years to modernize our offense NOT a bad hire?
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 1:57 pm to
Lynn Amedee, George Hafner, Morris Watts.
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
6412 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 1:57 pm to
Hell no TBL. Don’t come in here trying to polish a turd!
Posted by haramba3
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
856 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 1:57 pm to
I don’t want the hot shot. I just want a good offense. Ensminger and Sullivan are not exciting hires and looks to be the good Ole boy network doin work
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
5615 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 1:57 pm to
This would be underwhelming AND bad
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31980 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Ensminger and Sullivan are NOT bad hires!!!

Yeah, they are.

Ensminger hasnt been an OC in 20 years. Sullivan is ancient and doesn't have the luxury of a good young up-and-comer like Meatball + the Head Coach being a DL coach.

Sullivan to WR coach is an absolute DISASTER.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3774 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 1:59 pm to
Promoting Ensminger is absolutely the most dangerous hire O could recommend.

It shows he can't surround himself with elite talent. He's a below-average HC that is now hiring below-average coordinators and promising a championship based on wishes (and the skills of Dave Aranda thrown in).

This is the very definition of the failure of his stated vision and process. If this happens, he needs to go. If Alleva allows this to happen, he needs to go, too.
Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
1738 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:00 pm to
Do you know Steve? The guy is brilliant. Just because you choose not be an OC doesn’t mean you cant.

Steve does know his stuff. It would be interesting to see how Steve runs his O with full autonomy and a year to prep.

There is just nothing to provide evidence to calm the masses.
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
6412 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:01 pm to
Who the hell is upvoting this logic?!?
Posted by RosyFinchBOYZ
Member since Oct 2017
427 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:01 pm to
If O performs like this year again he should be fired. Miles was fired for failing to put LSU in championship contention. E will not put LSU back on that track. O promised to hire the best, and he's going back on that after one year.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
171440 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:01 pm to
O was scared to go for it because of what happened vs Florida last year.

Now he wants to make a “safe” hire over what is best for the program.

He is anything but a coonass. He is a weak, scared, unintelligent individual and I cannot wait till the day he and Alleva both get shitcanned.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56490 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:01 pm to
, I made a post yesterday appealing to Coach O to not go the comfortable route.

In order for the program to move forward he may need to be uncomfortable so that we can make changes in the offense in a big way.

It seems to me Coach O is content with 9 maybe 10 wins and finishing second and third maybe 4th every year in the West.


Look he's got money in the bank it's time to rock and roll and do whatever it takes to win big or just concede that he's not a championship coach.

If he's in it to be comfortable then he's not our guy that's a selfish thinking approach.
Posted by FightingTigers1
Member since Jan 2009
756 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:02 pm to
It's embarrassing to be an lsu fan right now, plain and simple
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Seem like failing to go for it on 4th and an inch. O’s logic was not wrong


It WAS wrong actually

Even if you don't get it, the probability of a team getting points when starting a drive on their own 1 inch line is really low.
Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
1738 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:02 pm to
I just dont want these two great coaches to to be bashed.

If I have my way, this is not even an option.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Ensminger and Sullivan are NOT bad hires!!!


For ULL, sure.

Hiring these bozos at LSU to run the offense is about the most retarded hire in college football since 11/26/16.
Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
1738 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:03 pm to
I do not disagree.
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
5615 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

It would be interesting to see how Steve runs his O with full autonomy


O has proven to be incapable of allowing that.
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