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Could LSU go after another QB transfer?
Posted on 12/23/17 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 12/23/17 at 1:56 pm
I’m curious if LSU might be eyeing another transfer. Who would be the top transfer on the market? I wouldn’t be upset if we went after Patterson’s backup at Ole Miss.
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 2:05 pm to N2LSU2
If he did not count against the 25.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 2:06 pm to N2LSU2
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I wouldn’t be upset if we went after Patterson’s backup at Ole Mi
He shows potential, but not sure eithr are interested in the other.l
Just curious, are the Ole Miss players like free agents who can be initially contacted or does the player have to initiate contact with the school and express his interest?
Posted on 12/23/17 at 2:11 pm to N2LSU2
A graduate transfer QB would make a lot of sense . Sign him in the Spring and would count against the 85 and give you four guys in the mix.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 2:20 pm to Lsupimp
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Sign him in the Spring
If we sign 25 and that is really our max, you couldn't sign him at all. He would have to be a walk on or he would have to be one of the four remaining. Everybody that signs a promise of a scholarship or receives a scholarship for athletics counts (except walkons that have been in the program for 2+ years and signees whose careers end before they start).
This post was edited on 12/23/17 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 12/23/17 at 2:31 pm to N2LSU2
quote:has that qb given any indication of leaving? We arent likely to pursue someone that caliber with what we have anyway. We have solid young qbs, solid rbs, and a very good ol.
I wouldn’t be upset if we went after Patterson’s backup at Ole Miss.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 2:51 pm to Indiana Tiger
My bad . I thought graduate transfers did not count against the 25 .
Posted on 12/23/17 at 3:00 pm to Lsupimp
IMHO we would be ccrazy to go after a qb that doesn't have four years to play ssince it appears we are set for the next couple already!
Posted on 12/23/17 at 3:03 pm to Lsupimp
I doesn't seem to me that anyone really knows what the rules are now - much less the NCAA.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 3:15 pm to Lsupimp
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My bad . I thought graduate transfers did not count against the 25 .
I can't figure out if it was a frick up or intentional, but they count. Think they eventually change it, but don't think they will do it this year.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 4:37 pm to Indiana Tiger
Looks like this new rule will limit schools from poaching other schools transfers. I think it is a great idea.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 4:57 pm to salford227
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Could LSU go after another QB transfer?Looks like this new rule will limit schools from poaching other schools transfers. I think it is a great idea.
I think it not only have that effect, it's gonna keep schools from signing 35 players and then pulling schollies to make 85 , if necessary (read Satan) And a transfer QB wouldn't have a good of a chance of being a star as the other positions.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 7:21 am to Indiana Tiger
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I can't figure out if it was a frick up or intentional, but they count. Think they eventually change it, but don't think they will do it this year.
I am beginning to think that this was a sneaky way to control the large number of transfers. A "top" team will have to consider carefully if it counts as one of the 25 new scholarships per year limit.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 9:12 am to mdwilkins
I speculated the same here-- LINK, but I don't think graduate transfers should be a concern. The vast majority of guys are backups looking for opportunity. Some may be key backups, but they aren't playing unless something bad happens. The kicker is a starter, but he is an FCS guy getting a chance in big time power 5 football. You gonna get vindictive about that?
So I think they will eventually change the rule, but given how big a deal it was to overhaul all these rules, I don't think anyone would, or even could, unilaterally change them. This probably will have to go through the rules changing process and that will take time.
So I think they will eventually change the rule, but given how big a deal it was to overhaul all these rules, I don't think anyone would, or even could, unilaterally change them. This probably will have to go through the rules changing process and that will take time.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 10:27 am to N2LSU2
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Patterson’s backup at Ole Miss.
Ta'amu is the starter now. Why would he leave in his senior year...
Posted on 12/24/17 at 10:29 am to airfernando
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We arent likely to pursue someone that caliber with what we have anyway.
We dont know what caliber we have yet.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 9:04 pm to Lsupimp
The way I read the rule is this. Only transfers that are initial counters go against the 25. The big fuss over the rule is why does the K count?
Again, the way I read the rule, the K counts because he is an initial counter. He was at a D2 school, meaning no scholarship, therefore never counted. Another transfer, say Patterson for instance, wouldn't count against Michigan's 25 because he's already counted against Ole Miss' at one time.
Using the way I read it, if we want a grad transfer at qb, or any other position, we just need room under the 85 and a kid from a "counting" program. Its confusing but I think that's how it works.
Again, the way I read the rule, the K counts because he is an initial counter. He was at a D2 school, meaning no scholarship, therefore never counted. Another transfer, say Patterson for instance, wouldn't count against Michigan's 25 because he's already counted against Ole Miss' at one time.
Using the way I read it, if we want a grad transfer at qb, or any other position, we just need room under the 85 and a kid from a "counting" program. Its confusing but I think that's how it works.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 9:40 pm to lsufanva
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Using the way I read it, if we want a grad transfer at qb, or any other position, we just need room under the 85 and a kid from a "counting" program. Its confusing but I think that's how it works.
The mistake you are making is treating initial counters and signees as equivalents. While all initial counters must be a signee, not all signees have to be initial counters (e.g. a non-qualifying signee or your grad transfer example). The new rules specify signees as the measure and a signee is anyone who signs a promise or awarding of athletic financial aid. Your grad transfer QB will count. In the context of signing limits, all references to initial counter could and should be deleted from the manual because they are irrelevant now.
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