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re: Micheal Savage going off on trump for raising his taxes in California
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:26 pm to Papplesbeast
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:26 pm to Papplesbeast
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Texas has no state income tax, but they have among the highest property tax and sales tax rates in the country
You are always going to pay. Front side of the deal or back side of the deal. You are making a quarter mil a year and don't know this? You sure found a fool to part with his money in paying you.
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:27 pm to Papplesbeast
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Really, based on your behavior, I've gotten the distinct impression that you're really happy that my taxes are going up. Especially if that money ends up in your pocket.
Well that's just not correct
quote:I don't live in Louisiana but there are lower tax states than Missouri
Louisiana is not a lower tax state than Missouri
quote:in other words they vary. No one can write a federal tax code that accounts for all of those variances.
Here's the thing, states get their money one way or another
And despite your language that appears to imply it not all states call the same amount of tax income total from their people
Either way a policy that allows deductions for state taxes causes one group of people to pay more to the federal government and a policy that doesn't allow them causes a different group of people to pay more money to the federal government
You acting like this is something unusual is silly
quote:you just sound stupid when you throw out terms like Marxist in this discussion
Trump ran on what are effectively Marxist policy proposals
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:30 pm to Oddibe
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The total exemptions double from $12000 to 24000.
The standard deduction is doubling from $12k to $24k, not exemptions. Exemptions are being eliminated. Actually, they're being rolled into the standard deduction, which makes the standard deduction increase effectively much smaller. If you currently have a family of three, which gives you $12k in exemptions, adding that to the standard deduction gives you $24k. So you don't actually gain anything.
The significance of rolling the exemptions into the standard deduction that is that people who don't itemize basically still get them. But people who do itemize lose them. If you itemize, you do not get to claim the standard deduction. It's an either/or proposition. Either claim the standard deduction or itemize.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:32 pm to ShortyRob
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Either way a policy that allows deductions for state taxes causes one group of people to pay more to the federal government and a policy that doesn't allow them causes a different group of people to pay more money to the federal government
California, in aggregate, pays more in federal income taxes than it receives in benefits. You think they should pay more so that a state like South Carolina, which gets way more from the federal government than it pays in can pay even less? That's Marxism dude.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:37 pm to GumboPot
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But people in California love high taxes
No shite, last election they raised the sin taxes by about $2.
Yeah! If I smoke, I get to now pay $9 for a pack of cigs.
I don't smoke but that's ridiculous for one segment to close the budget gap. California has only the 46th highest tax rate for Wine and Beer and is one of the largest consumers. So that's one area they don't like raising taxes.
How about raising taxes on Wine, golf courses and dog food?
That would fix the budget in about a year.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:46 pm to Papplesbeast
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California, in aggregate, pays more in federal income taxes than it receives in benefits. You think they should pay more so that a state like South Carolina, which gets way more from the federal government than it pays in can pay even less? That's Marxism dude.
ROFLMAO no
You just conflated individuals paying taxes with States. There is nothing in the federal tax code that says Californians must pay more in taxes.
Talking about how much taxes are state pays is retarded and you just outed yourself as a poser
If a state has a whole shite ton of people that are welfare cases those people aren't going to pay much in federal taxes.
Individuals pay taxes. Not States but the fact that you just came at me with the standard one each Democratic Underground talking point lets me know you're a fraud
Posted on 12/18/17 at 6:41 pm to ShortyRob
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And he lives in a home over 900k apparently in freaking Missouri
Yeah go ahead. Take that one to the Americans who oppose Trump normally LOL
I really have to laugh about that because my wife and I just bought a new home 2 months ago for 725k. here in North Alabama.
We came in just under the wire
Posted on 12/18/17 at 6:43 pm to RidiculousHype
Wasn’t too long ago this guy could do no wrong. Oh well, times have changed.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 6:51 pm to Paul Allen
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Wasn’t too long ago this guy could do no wrong
According to who?
I’m one of his biggest fans, which means I listen to him often. When you listen to anyone talk that much, you pick up on their strengths & weaknesses.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 6:59 pm to MrLarson
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You are always going to pay. Front side of the deal or back side of the deal. You are making a quarter mil a year and don't know this? You sure found a fool to part with his money in paying you.
Why are you reiterating my point and pretending that wasn't my point? Bizarre.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 7:11 pm to ShortyRob
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ROFLMAO no
You just conflated individuals paying taxes with States. There is nothing in the federal tax code that says Californians must pay more in taxes.
LOL, people defending this horrible tax plan have been conflating individuals with States the entire time. Don't blame me for simply responding to the arguments that California needs to be punished.
Look at it this way, if California seceded, the federal government would lose more in revenue than it saves in reduced spending.
If South Carolina seceded, the federal government would save more in spending than it loses in revenue.
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Talking about how much taxes are state pays is retarded and you just outed yourself as a poser
If a state has a whole shite ton of people that are welfare cases those people aren't going to pay much in federal taxes.
Exactly. That's why South Carolina pays so little in federal taxes. Too many people are on welfare.
The stereotype that only people in inner-cities are on welfare is nonsense. Welfare is rampant throughout rural America, regardless of the state. But people only want to focus on urban welfare, not rural. Sad.
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Individuals pay taxes. Not States but the fact that you just came at me with the standard one each Democratic Underground talking point lets me know you're a fraud
The most politically feasible way to balance the federal budget is to block-grant all federal spending, including military, federal courts, etc. Then tell each state you get only as much money as you pay in federal income taxes. You get to decide how that money is spent, but you don't get a penny more than you pay in.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 7:25 pm to Papplesbeast
negative. california being over half a trillion dollars in debt to the federal gov't and wanting a lib utopia is why they have to have state income tax.
cali is the biggest waste in american history.
cali is the biggest waste in american history.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 7:27 pm to Papplesbeast
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The most politically feasible way to balance the federal budget is to block-grant all federal spending, including military, federal courts, etc. Then tell each state you get only as much money as you pay in federal income taxes. You get to decide how that money is spent, but you don't get a penny more than you pay in.
Then the fed doesn't get to tell the states how they have to spend it.
California and New York would HATE that shite
Posted on 12/18/17 at 7:42 pm to RidiculousHype
He’s a compassionate conservative
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:08 pm to Papplesbeast
So how old is your child? I thought they proposed a much higher income limitation for the child tax credit. I noticed you didn't have that
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:56 pm to ShortyRob
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Then the fed doesn't get to tell the states how they have to spend it.
California and New York would HATE that shite
So would Texas. The big states like to bully the smaller states, regardless of which side of the political aisle they're on.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:01 pm to TigerDoug
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So how old is your child? I thought they proposed a much higher income limitation for the child tax credit. I noticed you didn't have that
My son is 19, which makes him too old for the tax credit.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:23 pm to Papplesbeast
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So would Texas. The big states like to bully the smaller states, regardless of which side of the political aisle they're on.
I'll be happy to continue thus conversation with your real alter
Dealing with frauds is a waste
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:27 pm to ShortyRob
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I'll be happy to continue thus conversation with your real alter
Dealing with frauds is a waste
LOL, I'm pretty sure the site admin could confirm the fact that this account is not a duplicate.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:38 pm to Papplesbeast
Sorry. I was confused. You mentioned you couldn't take advantage of the child tax credit under the current code so you should be able under the new plan.
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