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Ben Shapiro on Net Neutrality

Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:57 pm
LINK

It's a FB video. Sorry, couldn't find it on YouTube except the hour long version and I'm not weeding through that to find the time stamp. Makes a great point about how NN is worthless.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:10 pm to
I hope someone, somewhere is paying you for all this shilling.

To do this for free, or because you are the type of person to base your worldview around tribal trolling, would just be sad and indicative of a new level of partisan derangement I didn't think we could reach.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

I hope someone, somewhere is paying you for all this shilling.

To do this for free, or because you are the type of person to base your worldview around tribal trolling, would just be sad and indicative of a new level of partisan derangement I didn't think we could reach
.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:16 pm to
Ben is spot not.

The big boys like Google and Netflix don’t like it because it exposes them to competitors.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33359 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:26 pm to
Mark Cuban says the same thing, "Its the dumbest stuff ever"

It says it particularly stalls innovation, because if a company is protected by law from competition, few people will challenge their dominance. "Its a demonization of a few big companies"

"It puts the content of the Internet in the hands of a few commissioners appointed every 5 years." Just like 2 years ago NN was in, now its out. in coming years companies hosting ABC could be blackballed by a 3-2 vote, and then 5 years later companies hosting XYZ could be black balled
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:32 pm to
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The big boys like Google and Netflix don’t like it because it exposes them to competitors.



The big boys don't like it because supporting the repeal would be horrible for their brand/image. Google Fiber basically advertises as "Hey we aren't shitty arse Comcast you should sign up with us"

Google had their IPO August 2004.. market cap ~$23b. They were pro-NN back then before they were the giant (~$715b market cap) they are now.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 3:33 pm
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

Makes a great point about how NN is worthless.


All the smart people know this.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14232 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:35 pm to
99.9% of the people upset have no clue what net neutrality is.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:37 pm to
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99.9% of the people upset have no clue what net neutrality is.



like 99.9% of the people who made public comments supporting the repeal were bots?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:46 pm to
LINK

quote:

Key Findings:²
1. One pro-repeal spam campaign used mail-merge to disguise 1.3 million comments as unique grassroots submissions.

2. There were likely multiple other campaigns aimed at injecting what may total several million pro-repeal comments into the system.

3. It’s highly likely that more than 99% of the truly unique comments³ were in favor of keeping net neutrality.

99.12% to 99.90% of the 'organic' comments made were pro-net neutrality

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:50 pm to
I’m a Shapiro fanboy, but he’s being intellectually dishonest when he constantly brings up Facebook and Google, and never brings up Comcast or AT&T. I think Facebook and Google are well intentioned extremists that are wrong, but think they’re doing the right thing. Comcast know that they’re fricking evil though and will deliberately frick you over for any inch you give them. They’re by all standards worse.
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:51 pm to
I would gladly pay more for internet if it meant I got stronger more consistent speeds. Hell, weed out the poors for all I care
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:53 pm to
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I would gladly pay more for internet if it meant I got stronger more consistent speeds. Hell, weed out the poors for all I care



Member since Dec 2017
148 posts

I can't tell who you are shilling for
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:55 pm to
My ATT speed right now

Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:58 pm to
I’m shilling for myself. I would pay for premier tier speed
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:59 pm to
quote:


I’m shilling for myself. I would pay for premier tier speed



Nothing is stopping you from doing that today?
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:01 pm to
No but Sunday nights with heavy traffic, it crawls. Make that consistent by tiering out the poors and bazinga!
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:01 pm to
Lol.

They analysis is bullsgit.

His clustering violates major MDS assumptions
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 5:11 pm to
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Lol.

They analysis is bullsgit.

His clustering violates major MDS assumptions




he posted the data. show that he's wrong

here is more analysis fcc comments analyzed
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

I’m a Shapiro fanboy, but he’s being intellectually dishonest when he constantly brings up Facebook and Google, and never brings up Comcast or AT&T.


Pointing out Google's support of NN while ignoring Comcast, et al opposition is hilarious.

It's even funnier when you consider the main argument against NN is how it "impedes access" to start ups, somehow, while ignoring the fact Google is an entity actually trying to wedge into the market and push comcast out of business


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