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Just a fun link hinting at why all the NN discussions are hilariously out of date

Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:57 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:57 am
Google Fiber sheds workers as they look towards a wireless future.

The entire NN debate is silly. It so lacks forward thinking as to be almost painful.

The big dogs know the deal. So ask yourself. If Google believes wireless is the future........and wireless doesn't have the same barriers to entry that hard lines have......why is Google such a big advocate of NN?

I'll let you ruminate on that for a bit.

The NN debate is like when people honest to God thought if Blockbuster bought Hollywood video it would be a "monopoly".

I'll give you a hint. They understand the implications of an all wireless internet in terms of competition............for THEM!
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 8:59 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:01 am to
LOL

Downvoters scared to post because of how dumb they look.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46423 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:04 am to
quote:

Google Fiber sheds workers as they look towards a wireless future. The entire NN debate is silly. It so lacks forward thinking as to be almost painful. The big dogs know the deal. So ask yourself. If Google believes wireless is the future........and wireless doesn't have the same barriers to entry that hard lines have......why is Google such a big advocate of NN? I'll let you ruminate on that for a bit. The NN debate is like when people honest to God thought if Blockbuster bought Hollywood video it would be a "monopoly". I'll give you a hint. They understand the implications of an all wireless internet in terms of competition............for THEM!



5G is the endgame for all major carriers, field costs are ridiculously low compared to fiber/copper. T is already running 5G in selected trials and they are getting over 1 gig download speeds. T is also offering 5G home routers for their 5G service allowing the customer to access 5G without using their smartphone's hotspot.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126975 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:11 am to
Wired internet service into homes is going the way of the outhouse. It won't be a part of our home environment in the future.

That's why I just shake my head and laugh at the drama queens on here who believe that households will only have high speed internet service if there is a wire running into their residence.

Hell, now when my Cox internet service is disrupted, I just switch over to my AT&T data plan on my iPad. I don't notice a single bit of difference in the service. Sometimes I forget to switch back until I look in the upper left hand for the wi-fi symbol on my device and see the cellular data link symbol instead.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:31 am to
So the internet will be wireless.

Still not sure what that has to do with regulating its content and the providers of said content.

Spell it out for us idiots, Shorty
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29317 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:50 am to
quote:

The big dogs know the deal. So ask yourself. If Google believes wireless is the future........and wireless doesn't have the same barriers to entry that hard lines have......why is Google such a big advocate of NN?


Well that's easy...I think Google wants to be on the front lines of any regulation that could effect future service delivery technologies. If there is any barrier of entry created to those technologies Google wants to drive it.

It is refreshing to see that somebody gets it on this board.

The people advocating for NN have no idea what it would be like in 20 years....they are just worried about the stupid "fake flyers" they saw on reddit.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17068 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:01 am to
Google abandoned fiber not because it didn't work or wasn't good for their bottom line, but because they got tired of going to court to fight the incumbent ISP's who didn't want to let Google in to compete.

Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30985 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:12 am to
Because the stuff you connect TO will not be connected wirelessly. The throughput would horribly insufficient for a datacenter.

Do you honestly think that tigerdroppings.com is sitting on someone's PC?

It's in a datacenter with huge fiber and copper connections running into it. The type of connections at present, and for the foreseeable future, literally impossible via wireless connectivity.

Net Neutrality isn't JUST about how you connect your house, but to all the things you connect back to.

Or, more to the point from the article you linked:

quote:

it's still hellishly expensive to connect those pipes to customers' homes


HOMES. Not data centers, not server farms, not businesses.

Wait until your wireless company informs you that they do not have a free access agreement with Media 3, and your connection to tigerdroppings.com will cost an extra $4.99 per month. $10.99 for the after hours access.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:13 am to
It greatly amuses me that the NN morons in the other threads are studiously avoiding this one.

Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20472 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:25 am to
I live in a region where there is no competition, competition with ISPs would literally improve peoples lives out here. Point to point internet cannot get here soon enough.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73004 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:41 pm to


Great thread.
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