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Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:55 pm to
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Isn't confession and repentance and extremely important part of Christianity
i don't know. i'm not Christian, but i'm pretty sure prayer is an extremely important part of Christianity.

you going somewhere with this?

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If it's not important and doesn't do anyone any good then why would God think it's important?
how the frick should i know. why do you think i'm a Christian?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101948 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:55 pm to
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Fox Mulder


Congrats
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10505 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:56 pm to
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This would be true if all damage was physical.


If your intent is to state that emotional and psychological harm can be healed by apologies, then you really are a nitwit.

Apologies are not for the victim, they are for the perpetrator to feel better. Even in Catholicism this is true. You don't confess to a priest because you are trying to make the victims of your actions feel better. You do it for some personal gain like cleansing your "soul".
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 12:58 pm
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39749 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:57 pm to
Didn't help Charlie Rose. He gone from CBS and PBS.

Been so many liberals waging war on women, I didn't even notice Jeffrey Tambor quit his Amazon show as a preemptive strike to avoid being fired.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:57 pm to
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There were so many ways available to you to respond to the OP that didn't require you being a prick.

That said, a forced apology for the sake of optics is usually a meaningless gesture.
prayers are worthless because they don't do anything about the problem...i'm still waiting to hear how an apology does...it clearly does because that's why franken shouldn't resign as opposed to others who should.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112766 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:58 pm to
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it's ok, he apologized and manned up. problem solved.


It's kinda like Hillary saying "I take responsibility for losing the election" and then presents a laundry list of people whose fault it was for her losing.
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:58 pm to
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Where we know here you stand - it sure ain't with God but yet you know so much about Him. It's a perplexing conundrum you have there.


You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, and are probably completely clueless as to what a relationship with God involves, much less judge someone else as to whether they stand with him or not
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:58 pm to
why thank you...but i don't have a child until we leave the hospital without my wife giving the go ahead to scramble little fox mulder's brains...according to ethan
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:03 pm to
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FWIW I don’t think Franken did anything that warrants an apology


Again, you are speaking from a position of moral indifference. Tell you what, let Al Franken take a picture with your mother or wife or daughter, cupping their breasts while they struggle to move his hands and object.


You think he deserves to apologize to someone now? Go and stutter somewhere
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 1:07 pm
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8865 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:03 pm to
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prayers are worthless because they don't do anything about the problem


Respectfully, that’s simply your opinion.
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:06 pm to
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why thank you...but i don't have a child until we leave the hospital without my wife giving the go ahead to scramble little fox mulder's brains...according to ethan




What on earth are you talking about now
Posted by culsutiger
Member since Apr 2012
652 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:10 pm to
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Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:13 pm to
that's not what i'm saying. what i'm saying is condolences or sympathy via the expression of "i am praying for you" is received by liberals with "prayers don't bring back the dead or solve the problem. go frick yourself"

while "i'm sorry" (and a shitty one at that) for sexual harassment is the difference between senator franken and ex senator franken...even though by the same standard, it does not undo the wrong committed nor does it prevent another wrong from being committed. it does...nothing.

i'm applying someone else's standard of logic to point out their hypocrisy. i'm not saying apologies have no value (like ethan is stupid enough to take away) nor am i saying your prayers are worthless...that's the standard from which i'm asking a question about the apology tour. a question which is sure to trigger anyone who hates being confronted with the realization that they're entirely full of shite (not you)
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8865 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:20 pm to
You’re right, apologies in this sense often mean little to the victim. There must be actions to reinforce the verbal apology. To me, an apology should be looked at simply as an admittal of guilt. That’s the first step. Has Weinstein apologized at all yet? Hell Cosby still denies everything.

Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24980 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:23 pm to
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You are stupid and appear to have no moral compass. Don’t have children and god forbid you are ever put in a position of authority. You are a sad person if you think gestures like apologies, even if all they do is symbolize something and are token, are unwarranted anymore. Again, don’t get into the business of raising any children


Maybe you're too stupid to understand the OP. We're not talking about 6-year-olds stealing a piece of bubble gum in the check out isle at the county store.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35289 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:23 pm to
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This would be true if all damage was physical


Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24980 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:25 pm to
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Well we know where you stand - it sure ain't with God but yet you know so much about Him. It's a perplexing conundrum you have there.


If you want to argue against something, it's best to understand what you're arguing against.

Many atheists are pretty knowledgeable in religion.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:27 pm to

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Maybe you're too stupid to understand the OP. We're not talking about 6-year-olds stealing a piece of bubble gum in the check out isle at the county store.
and we're operating on a pre established logical foundation to which many liberals subscribe

no need to call him stupid though. i'm enjoying watching him. he has no rebuttal, a straw man, and nothing but insults. he's triggered.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:28 pm to
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it's ok, he apologized and manned up. problem solved.


34 (I think) SNL workers signed a letter defending him. I was honestly shocked to see this. Amazing how one sided people are when it comes to issues like this involving politicians. Just pathetic.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:29 pm to
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apology should be looked at simply as an admittal of guilt.
they should, but they're not

in fact many people deny the accusations but apologize for whatever may have caused their misinterpretation...then there's the issue of whether an apology is an apology.

"i regret putting such a high number on it" was Hillary Clinton's apology for her deplorables comment...it was reported as an apology, but that's not an apology.
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