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Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by Bullseye
Madisonville
Member since Oct 2017
241 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:23 pm to
I knew a old man years ago that was in the Bataan Death March. True heroes.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35780 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:24 pm to
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A sniper in the Marines. He even has a tat saying so.

Sniper is the go-to for fakers. I'd start by asking his MOS but if he went so far as to get a tattoo he's probably done his homework.

On the other hand, if he actually served and is just exaggerating his service then he will be a lot harder to catch.
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 10:25 pm
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30574 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:25 pm to
I used to work with a guy that was just like this guy but even worse. He used to have a coin that he said proved he was a sniper and would tell his stories to anyone that would listen. The problem for hi, was that he was a fricking idiot and couldn't remember his own lies and never knew when to shut up. He'd show that coin to anyone and anybody and start telling his made up war stories. I eventually had enough info to catch him in his lie and exposed him. None of his dates matched up from his exploits catching Saddam and secret missions behind enemy lines. The dude stuck with his story though no matter what evidence I had to show he was full of shite.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
100251 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:26 pm to
Pfft. 57E if you really want to be high speed.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:26 pm to
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Be careful. I did the same thing thinking a guy was lying. Turned out the guy was a war hero. I felt like a arse for doing that.

That's because you were an arse. I wouldn't accuse someone of stolen valor unless I knew without a doubt they were lying.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30574 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:26 pm to
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Ask him the color of the boathouse at Hereford.


What's Hereford?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
100251 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:30 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135772 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:31 pm to
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I knew a old man years ago that was in the Bataan Death March. True heroes.

Yeah, he wrote a book about it. Pretty crazy stuff. He ended up being liberated by the Russians in Manchuria by the end of the war. A couple of his brothers were killed (one was my grandmother's husband) and he didn't find out they were dead until he heard a barber mention it in passing.

He's got a couple interviews

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Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48789 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:31 pm to
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Sniper is the go-to for fakers


See how good their math is.
Posted by Sinister1
Metairie
Member since Dec 2007
1872 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:31 pm to
I work with a guy like that. Lied for years about being divorced. He had an accident at work and they contacted his parents. The wife called up asking why she wasn't called and Secretary told her that he said they were divorced for the last 5 years. He also claims to have been a Marine yet he can't remember his service number. Recently we hired someone else that was in the Marines and now all of a sudden he doesn't talk about being in the Marines anymore.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30574 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:33 pm to
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Be careful. I did the same thing thinking a guy was lying. Turned out the guy was a war hero. I felt like a arse for doing that.




That's what I was always worried about with the other guy I mentioned. I didn't want to call him a liar on the slight chance he was telling the truth. Also, he was so deep in his bullshite that if I exposed him, I'd be calling his whole existence a lie. I eventually let him know I knew for a fact he was full of shite but never did it publicly. This dude was unstable, he may have done something awful if I had done that.
This post was edited on 11/11/17 at 12:08 am
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35780 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:33 pm to
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He also claims to have been a Marine yet he can't remember his service number.

Can't remember mine either because we use SSN's these days.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48789 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:35 pm to
What does he do now for a living?
Posted by Sinister1
Metairie
Member since Dec 2007
1872 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:39 pm to
When did they start using SS#'s? Another former Marine in his 80's is the one that asked what his service number was. The guy we think is lying is around 50 and says he was in Desert Storm.
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 10:40 pm
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
32170 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:39 pm to
Gunny means he was a sgt.

Be careful if there is actually a chance at some validity. Otherwise, I’d say call his arse out under a controlled situation.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
24791 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:39 pm to
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I didn't want to call him a liar on the slight chance he was telling the truth.


If you are not 100% sure then let it pass. If he is not legit, it will come out sooner or later.
Posted by UncleLester
West of the Mississippi
Member since Aug 2008
7652 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:40 pm to
Does he have a Facebook page?

Write on his wall "Happy Veteran's Day, ##FName##! Thank you for your service."

If he doesn't respond, he won't want to draw attention to his family and childhood friends - as they'll know the truth.

If he does respond, he's probably a vet.
Posted by Signal Soldier
30.411994,-91.183929
Member since Dec 2010
8360 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:41 pm to
Just waterboard him...
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35780 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

When did they start using SS#'s? Another former Marine in his 80's is the one that asked what his service number was. The guy we think is lying is around 50 and says he was in Desert Storm.

Army and AF in 1969. Navy and Marines in 72.
quote:

Service numbers were eventually phased out completely by the social security number; the Army and Air Force converted to social security numbers on 1 July 1969, the Navy and Marine Corps on 1 January 1972, and the Coast Guard on 1 October 1974.[4] Since that time, social security numbers have become the de facto military service number for United States armed forces personnel.


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Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30574 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:44 pm to
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Ask him his MOS. 0317 or 8541.


He'll know I'm interrogating him and probably clam up. I'll try though. The other night he kept talking about how driving at night reminds him of the tracers from machine gun fire that some specific battalion used to use. Some shite like that. I wish I remember the battalion that he said.

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