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My issues with stranger things season 2 (spoiler thread)
Posted on 11/4/17 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 11/4/17 at 2:28 pm
feel like I'm alone in my disappointment with the second season. Where the first season was an homage to 80s movies and had this endearing "Goonies" vibe, the second season was just blatantly derivative and contrived. I thought they went overboard with the 80s movies parallels in second season. When eleven is talking to her "sister" telling her to let her anger fuel her power might as well have been taken word for word from the Star Wars script...I mean come on...emperor palpatine much?
And the demigorgons running rampant in a lab where the power is off and everyone is pretty much screwed, but of course this brand new character, Sean astin (who was lazily written into the show) can save the day because he is a RadioShack employee who knows how to reprogram highly advanced black ops government computer technology. That whole situation was so tropish it was hard to watch.. I felt like I was watching the raptor scene in Jurassic Park, but with shittier acting. Am I alone here? Am I just an a-hole? If not, what pissed you guys off about the new season?
And the demigorgons running rampant in a lab where the power is off and everyone is pretty much screwed, but of course this brand new character, Sean astin (who was lazily written into the show) can save the day because he is a RadioShack employee who knows how to reprogram highly advanced black ops government computer technology. That whole situation was so tropish it was hard to watch.. I felt like I was watching the raptor scene in Jurassic Park, but with shittier acting. Am I alone here? Am I just an a-hole? If not, what pissed you guys off about the new season?
This post was edited on 11/4/17 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 11/4/17 at 2:30 pm to Browncoatrebel
ok....there is a thread you could have put this in
Posted on 11/4/17 at 2:32 pm to The Godfather
Also paragraphs please.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 2:39 pm to The Godfather
True. My bad I didn't scroll down and see the existing thread.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 3:56 pm to Browncoatrebel
I didn't really have any gripes. Most people I know actually enjoyed the Star Wars parallel and thought it was a cool tribute. I know dick shite about Star Wars so I just figured it was a cool standalone scene. Bob was tGOAT.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 9:38 pm to Browncoatrebel
quote:How dare you disrespect Bob the Great??!!
Sean astin (who was lazily written into the show) can save the day because he is a RadioShack employee who knows how to reprogram highly advanced black ops government computer technology. That whole situation was so tropish it was hard to watch.
This post was edited on 11/4/17 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 11/4/17 at 9:43 pm to Browncoatrebel
I'm not a huge fan. Just finishing the last episode. Lots of terrible over the top acting. Hopper going nuts in that one scene was just too over the top. Sure they somewhat explained his behavior with his chat in the truck but it was still way over the top. Pretty much all the new characters sucked. max was ok but her brother was like a bad Stephen King character complete with abusive father.
I knew Rudy Samwise would die the second he volunteered.
Jane's Big Adventure was terrible. Too many new characters that added nothing.
I don't hate season 2 but it wasn't as well written or acted and that is an actual fact not opinion man.
I've got about 30 minutes to go but I don't see my opinion changing. I watched the original 3 times. I don't see a rewatch of this season happening. I still like the interaction with the core group but this felt more like and 8 episode season and they should have clipped out Jane's Adventure.
I knew Rudy Samwise would die the second he volunteered.
Jane's Big Adventure was terrible. Too many new characters that added nothing.
I don't hate season 2 but it wasn't as well written or acted and that is an actual fact not opinion man.
I've got about 30 minutes to go but I don't see my opinion changing. I watched the original 3 times. I don't see a rewatch of this season happening. I still like the interaction with the core group but this felt more like and 8 episode season and they should have clipped out Jane's Adventure.
This post was edited on 11/4/17 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 11/4/17 at 10:19 pm to TigerMyth36
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Jane's Big Adventure was terrible. Too many new characters that added nothing.
I agree with this. It could have easily been left out.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 10:54 pm to TigerMyth36
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I don't hate season 2 but it wasn't as well written or acted and that is an actual fact not opinion man.
No I’m pretty show that is just your opinion.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 11:02 pm to Browncoatrebel
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When eleven is talking to her "sister" telling her to let her anger fuel her power might as well have been taken word for word from the Star Wars script...I mean come on...emperor palpatine much?
How else are psychic powers supposed to work? Should they have done a call back to the 60's instead and told her to twitch her nose or blink?
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the second season was just blatantly derivative and contrived.
I will say there seems to be enough "inspiration" from past movies that I'm waiting for a Milli Vanilli lip sync level scandal where we find out the Duffer Brothers let a computer algorithm build an outline by mashing up popular scenes on YouTube. But even if that were the case, they're just giving us what we know we like. Maybe it feels off in the after the fact over analysis, but while watching it I know I enjoyed it.
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Am I alone here? Am I just an a-hole? If not, what pissed you guys off about the new season?
I don't think you're alone or an a-hole but you do have some other problems if you watched ST2 and felt the need to vent. It was still a fun ride, save the over analyzing for after you've watched it, not while you watch it.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 12:50 am to TigerinATL
You’ve got to give it to the duffer Bros and the directors bc while it is derivative, they execute it perfectly and it’s always fun and touching.
Next season will be more telling for the show. They will have to be a bit more original than the first two seasons.
Next season will be more telling for the show. They will have to be a bit more original than the first two seasons.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 5:08 am to Browncoatrebel
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12 posts
You are not starting off well....
Posted on 11/5/17 at 5:58 am to Browncoatrebel
Did you lose sleep over this? Because it feels like you lost sleep over this.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 6:33 am to Browncoatrebel
I basically disagree with everything in your OP.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 7:42 am to Browncoatrebel
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Sean astin (who was lazily written into the show) can save the day because he is a RadioShack employee who knows how to reprogram highly advanced black ops government computer technology
Oh dear. He didn't reprogram the computer, he flipped the main breaker and then entered a few basic commands to start the system back up. Computers were not particularly advanced back in the 80's, anyone with any computer knowledge could have pulled that off.
In fact I dare say that the system was designed to be easy to restart in the event of a power failure. Because spending three hours typing in commands wouldn't make a tremendous amount of sense.
The only reason Hopper didn't run down there and do it himself is computers were also fairly rare back then. A Radio Shack employee would have some knowledge of them, a backwoods county sheriff not so much.
Once he got the computer restarted, it was a simple matter of selecting items from the onscreen menu.
It was amazingly realistic actually. Far more so then most movies and TV shows manage to pull off.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 1:49 pm to Arksulli
Ok, i see your point, but what about about the whole subplot of Hooper's daughter being implicated in the upside down world..I thought they would explore that and it didn't come up once. Are they waiting for the next season?
Posted on 11/5/17 at 2:23 pm to Arksulli
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Oh dear. He didn't reprogram the computer, he flipped the main breaker and then entered a few basic commands to start the system back up. Computers were not particularly advanced back in the 80's, anyone with any computer knowledge could have pulled that off.
Assuming BASIC programming was necessary to restart that system was like typing JCL into an Atari 400 and expecting it to do something. What he did was write four nested loops to exhaustively search a four digit password by calling a "checkPassword" subroutine, which is plausible but requires him to find a system running BASIC that's hooked into the security system and advertises the name of a subroutine that has no lockout protection, and none of it works if it isn't a simple short length PIN he's after.
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It was amazingly realistic actually. Far more so then most movies and TV shows manage to pull off.
It at least made some sense compared to the snippets of code and exposition gibberish you see in most shows, but Bob's surety of his assumptions and ease of carrying them out were anything but "realistic."
Posted on 11/9/17 at 2:11 am to Spock's Eyebrow
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It at least made some sense compared to the snippets of code and exposition gibberish you see in most shows
Case in point, the code snippet Michael was asked to debug in Star Trek Discovery E03. In the midst of a bunch of commented out Windows SDK function declarations was a code fragment apparently not belonging to a function, which cannot compile. FFS, the Discovery is running on 1990s Windows NT and being programmed in C by dumbasses?
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:57 am to Browncoatrebel
Eleven wasn't infected, she fought the main mindflayer back into the upside down.
But the mindflayer knows where she lives and a piece of it is still loose.
Other questions. The original Demigorgon and dart may not have been infected. Which is why dart got "tamed".
This would mean the mindflayer stumbled on the portal and manipulated it for it's own hidden entrance.
This would also explain why Eleven is being stalked by it from the upside down only after closing the gate. It also explains its humanish body language when initially confronted by eleven. It's curious until rebuffed. Now it wants her power.
But the mindflayer knows where she lives and a piece of it is still loose.
Other questions. The original Demigorgon and dart may not have been infected. Which is why dart got "tamed".
This would mean the mindflayer stumbled on the portal and manipulated it for it's own hidden entrance.
This would also explain why Eleven is being stalked by it from the upside down only after closing the gate. It also explains its humanish body language when initially confronted by eleven. It's curious until rebuffed. Now it wants her power.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:02 pm to Browncoatrebel
I think you're just in a shitty mood. I liked it.
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