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Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:12 am to champj3
Only concern is the loss to Troy. Getting demolished by an average State team should have been the wake up call this team needed. They shouldn't need another loss to Troy in order to get their shite together.
I'm glad they're playing motivated, but disappointed in what it took to get them that way.
I'm glad they're playing motivated, but disappointed in what it took to get them that way.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:12 am to champj3
If we keep winning and improving till Alabama I wouldn't count us out in that game.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:16 am to R11
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If we keep winning and improving till Alabama I wouldn't count us out in that game.
I don't
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:21 am to S
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Amazing what beating the worst Florida team in 30 years and an overrated Auburn does to people.
Florida was 4-8 in 2013 and 7-5 in 2014. 30 years? Really?
Auburn's only other loss was to Clemson without Auburn's best player, Kerryon Johnson, who despite missing that game leads the NCAA in TDs with 13.
I suppose if we beat Bama they were over rated too?
It's a little sick that some LSU fans try so hard to explain away good perfomances.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:23 am to BayouCowboy
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It's a little sick that some LSU fans try so hard to explain away good perfomances.
They are NOT LSU fans, they may think they are, but they are desperate people who see little good in life in general, MHO
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:27 am to BayouCowboy
That 4-8 UF team had a defense with a pulse. That team would destroy this year's team. Nevertheless.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:34 am to BayouCowboy
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It's a little sick that some LSU fans try so hard to explain away good perfomances.
Not more sick than the excuse after excuse after the Troy and Moo State losses.
Everything from Troy has “more” talent, to injuries (Truth is we had less depth and experience at OL v UF and Aub than Troy), to its a rebuilding year on and on and on.
I have been upfront about Alleva’s “search” and decision as well as my belief the “CEO” structure where the Coordinators have the power and not the HC is dysfunctional.
Can we win out? I don’t know, I hope so.
But don’t come here with BS that somehow there wasn’t excuse after excuse on this board after bad losses.
Why don’t those horse shite excuses make you just as sick or more?
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 9:36 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:34 am to S
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That 4-8 UF team had a defense with a pulse. That team would destroy this year's team. Nevertheless.
The one that gave up 429 yards in a loss to Georgia Southern?
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 9:35 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:37 am to champj3
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With 5 road games do to the flip schedule, I would call this season a success! If it took the State and Troy game to render this result, I'm good with that. One more great recruiting class with a few key Juco's and we are in contention for SEC west in 2018!
Let's shoot for an Outback bowl appearance vs Michigan!
10-3 here we go!
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:43 am to NoGeaux
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Not more sick than the excuse after excuse after the Troy and Moo State losses. Everything from Troy has “more” talent, to injuries (Truth is we had less depth and experience at OL v UF and Aub than Troy), to its a rebuilding year on and on and on. I have been upfront about Alleva’s “search” and decision as well as my belief the “CEO” structure where the Coordinators have the power and not the HC is dysfunctional. Can we win out? I don’t know, I hope so. But don’t come here with BS that somehow there wasn’t excuse after excuse on this board after bad losses. Why don’t those horse shite excuses make you just as sick or more?
Both sides are irrational. There's no excuse for those losses. You can discuss circumstances that lead to the losses and they are accurate. It ultimately falls on the HC. But, if you don't look at all the factors then you are calling out Aranda for being a bad coach because the D just as bad if not was worse than the O in the Miss St and Troy games.
I agree Alleva must go and I don't have a lot of faith in O as a coach with the way he handled those games and personnel before and after. I have said as much. But to explain away good games as well as bad ones is total BS on either side and I will call out both.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:28 am to Plankton
I agree with this. The Troy loss is another even more inexcusable gaffe by CEO.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:32 am to NoGeaux
I give credit to CEO for the Auburn win, but he is a loose cannon IMHO. He says publicly that the team has no place kickers. Unacceptable in my opinion. LSU needs a real head coach. CEO is not one of those so far as I am concerned. That said, if they do not get rid of Alleva, expect nothing to get better.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:39 am to Plankton
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Only a win against Bama can make up for that ugly loss to Troy.
As bad as the loss to Troy was, that kind of absolute just isn't fair.
Alabama isn't as unbeatable as they have been recently imo, but they are still clearly on a different level than we are, and the game is on the road.
I'm not expecting to get blown out, but I'm comfortable marking it as a loss.
Last year the argument became that you can't judge O based on the Bama game, and I disagreed with that. Last year was the year to beat them. I thought that if Miles didn't, then his time was up. I certainly thought that if O didn't then he didn't deserve to get the full time job.
But he is our coach now, and I just don't think the bar this year is beating Bama. Even with a loss there, winning out puts us at 9-3 with a great bowl game.
I think that's a fair mark at this point.
ETA: Granted, I thought it should have been 10-2 at the beginning of the season, but the Troy loss ruined that.
Still, you can't make that one game out to be bigger than it is, even as bad as it was.
If we get to 9-3, you have to assume that game was the wake up call the team and coaches needed.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 10:41 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:45 am to champj3
I'd be happy to just see the team go out and play hard every week. Close/competitive losses is completely acceptable with Bama and A&M in the mix imo.
6-2 would be better than most people realistically expected coming into the year, so of course it'd be a huge success.
6-2 would be better than most people realistically expected coming into the year, so of course it'd be a huge success.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:52 am to BayouCowboy
quote:Exactly. A bunch of them frickers mysteriously disappeared after the Auburn win. Hmmmm kind of tells me they were never real fans anyway.
It's a little sick that some LSU fans try so hard to explain away good perfomances.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:01 am to champj3
I have no idea what this team is capable of good and bad and neither does everyone else.
If one or two plays don't go our way late in the first half against Auburn we might have lost by 4+ touchdowns.
They've shown promise and an ability to compete with the big boys. They've also shown an inability to establish the run game in virtually every game jet sweeps notwothstanding. They really skew the YPC average to make it appear we get 5 yards per run when in actuality 20 runs get 2-3 yards and one gains 50-70 making the stats somewhat misleading.
At some point this year we're going to need to effectively run between the tackles. Teams are going to start scheming to contain the edge and we have to be able to make them pay. If Guice isn't 100%, sit him until he is.
This is the main reason I hate that the I-form seems to have been removed from the playbook entirely. I'd like the team to be able to gain one yard running right up the middle or break a long run like Fournette and Guice did so many times the prior 3 years. The one constant: a fullback acting as a north-south lead blocker.
JD Moore didn't earn #18 for nothing. I feel he's being grossly misused.
Don't get me wrong, I don’t want Canada to change his whole approach, but LSU shouldn't have to run a play action pass or jet sweep to score from the 1. We should have at least one power set with split ends and one goalline set with an actual fullback lead blocker.
I think if we had that, teams would have to key in on the run game (inside and out as opposed to only outside), giving Danny more time and one fewer pass defender on passing plays.
Our formations seem to cap our RBs at 3-4 YPC unless they break tackles and/or truck defenders. In the SEC, if you can't play big boy football eventually it will catch up with you.
Aside from that I like what I've been seeing.
If one or two plays don't go our way late in the first half against Auburn we might have lost by 4+ touchdowns.
They've shown promise and an ability to compete with the big boys. They've also shown an inability to establish the run game in virtually every game jet sweeps notwothstanding. They really skew the YPC average to make it appear we get 5 yards per run when in actuality 20 runs get 2-3 yards and one gains 50-70 making the stats somewhat misleading.
At some point this year we're going to need to effectively run between the tackles. Teams are going to start scheming to contain the edge and we have to be able to make them pay. If Guice isn't 100%, sit him until he is.
This is the main reason I hate that the I-form seems to have been removed from the playbook entirely. I'd like the team to be able to gain one yard running right up the middle or break a long run like Fournette and Guice did so many times the prior 3 years. The one constant: a fullback acting as a north-south lead blocker.
JD Moore didn't earn #18 for nothing. I feel he's being grossly misused.
Don't get me wrong, I don’t want Canada to change his whole approach, but LSU shouldn't have to run a play action pass or jet sweep to score from the 1. We should have at least one power set with split ends and one goalline set with an actual fullback lead blocker.
I think if we had that, teams would have to key in on the run game (inside and out as opposed to only outside), giving Danny more time and one fewer pass defender on passing plays.
Our formations seem to cap our RBs at 3-4 YPC unless they break tackles and/or truck defenders. In the SEC, if you can't play big boy football eventually it will catch up with you.
Aside from that I like what I've been seeing.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:06 am to champj3
I agree also. One thing this type of season does is make me appreciate every win. Games against Ole Miss and Arky aren’t a layup . I’ll enjoy them
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:07 am to champj3
I’ll get crushed for this but we survived against a pretty bad Florida team with help from a missed extra point.
Then we got down huge at home only to rally for another close win.
My point is, I hope we win all the games we are favored in (and pray we somehow can defeat Bama) but I won’t at all be surprised if this team drops more games it has no business losing.
Then we got down huge at home only to rally for another close win.
My point is, I hope we win all the games we are favored in (and pray we somehow can defeat Bama) but I won’t at all be surprised if this team drops more games it has no business losing.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:27 am to okietiger
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My point is, I hope we win all the games we are favored in (and pray we somehow can defeat Bama) but I won’t at all be surprised if this team drops more games it has no business losing.
Keep an eye on A&M. By the time we play them Mond will have had a full season under his belt, and if we can't run between the tackles effectively I fear that matchup may be favorable to them.
A&M is reason enough to practice running inside runs out of the I-formation with JD Moore lined up where he's been so effective the past few years prior to this season.
It's sad that we have to run PA passes and jet sweeps on the goalline because our offense has no formations (that we've seen so far) that allow for "big boy football."
Guice and Williams both averaging 3 YPC is concerning this late in the season. I hope Canada has something in store to get them looking like they did last year and in 15, but this late in the season I'm beginning to doubt it and it would make no sense for that to the "new wrinkle" installed for the Bama game.
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