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re: It's started already. "We don't need AR-15's in this country." NBC Today

Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:41 am to
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78264 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:41 am to
We should outlaw guns.

We should also outlaw committing mass murder while we are at it.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 8:41 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Take any nutjob with a plan and a few guns and he can absolutely massacre people.


...is not...

quote:

He could have done this kind of damage with pretty much any gun he wanted.. so I think the point stands.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:46 am to
Give a dude 8 handguns and with a decent plan he could kill dozens of people. This guy had an accomplice right?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:48 am to
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8 handguns


Statements like this let us know you're talking out of your arse.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17545 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Give a dude 8 handguns and with a decent plan he could kill dozens of people. This guy had an accomplice right?


Hollywood has really brainwashed you buddy. Handguns are basically good for self defense type situations not for true "offensive actions".
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 8:52 am
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4283 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:51 am to
quote:

quote:
8 handguns


Statements like this let us know you're talking out of your arse.



What if it was just one mook with 6 guns?
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 8:51 am
Posted by Port Royal
You Name It , I've Been There
Member since Nov 2016
1811 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:22 am to
the weapon of choice is moot....

anyone can go into a Walmart and walk out 10 minutes later with finishing nails, shot gun shells, and a pressure cooker and assemble a mass casualty device
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12683 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:54 am to
Dude could have hurled molotov cocktails down on a crowd and killed and injured people too.

The weapon is insignificant. If someone wants to commit an evil act of violence then they will find a way.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:43 pm to
quote:


Hollywood has really brainwashed you buddy. Handguns are basically good for self defense type situations not for true "offensive actions".


Omar Mateen used a semiautomatic rifle and a 9mm pistol and killed like 48 or 49 people. My point is that the weapon is almost irrelevant. Get a few handguns into a concert venue and the body count will be in the dozens.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 12:46 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:44 pm to
Your point didn't get better with time.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

We don't need AR-15's in this country."



That's a true statement. You also do NEED electricity. You don't NEED a car. You don't NEED shoes.


But we have this document that says I can own them.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Jesus. It's very clearly a full auto weapon, not a semi-automatic gun.


We should be pushing for full legalization right now, not virtually defending existing laws.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73822 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:52 pm to
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Doesn't AR stand for automatic rifle?




ARMALITE
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:05 pm to
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Your point didn't get better with time.



and it's still true. sorry
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:10 pm to
quote:


Ignorant folks post ignorant things. There is no way in God's green Earth that a semi-automatics weapon could have placed that amount of rounds down range.



Uh oh
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41316 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:10 pm to
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and it's still true. sorry


An environmental wacko (bmy) trying to educate a guy who was most likely in the service (DisplacedBuckeye) about weaponry is pretty hilarious.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8038 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:12 pm to
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Doesnt sound like an M4 or an AK.

rate of fire sounds like a MAC 10 but the range would probably preclude this

also Mini 30 came to mind


I've been trying to figure this one out, too.

It definitely sounds like a smaller caliber bullet, but I can't tell if it's a bump stock rifle or a real deal automatic. There are some angles I've seen where it sounds like a SAW or something and there are others where it just sounds like a funky bump stock.

Has this been confirmed anywhere?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:14 pm to
quote:


An environmental wacko (bmy) trying to educate a guy who was most likely in the service (DisplacedBuckeye) about weaponry is pretty hilarious.



you are melting so hard today. it's unfortunate that no one in the stadium was armed and could stop this from happening.

i'd prefer to be an 'environmental wacko' over a retarded christian evangelist so i guess all things considered i'm lucky AF
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 2:16 pm
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

Chad Pergram?Verified account @ChadPergram 32m32 minutes ago

Colleague William Lajeunesse rpts police recovered 19 weapons total. Were .308 and .223 caliber. Latter used for big game #LasVegas


This is the only thing I've seen reported about the weapons.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8038 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

quote:
Chad Pergram?Verified account @ChadPergram 32m32 minutes ago

Colleague William Lajeunesse rpts police recovered 19 weapons total. Were .308 and .223 caliber. Latter used for big game #LasVegas


This is the only thing I've seen reported about the weapons.


So both can be utilized for semi-auto and full-auto weapons.

I'd be interested to know more about the weapons because that was one hell of a sustained rate for bump stocks. One would think an AR-like weapon would have the barrel melt fairly quickly. Maybe he bump stocked all of them and just kept rotating.
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