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Rural America faces highest incarceration rates, not black city centers

Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:21 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:21 pm
Seems odd that a country based on white privilege would "treat" its rural whites so bad

But but but system is racist!!!!!!

NBC

The researchers at Vera and the Safety and Justice Challenge broke out jail data from 1,936 rural counties — those with fewer than 250,000 people — and found that pretrial incarceration rates had jumped from 49 per 100,000 people in 1970 to 265 per 100,000 people in 2013.

By comparison, the pretrial incarceration rate in urban counties rose from 101 per 100,000 people to 200 per 100,000 people, and from 39 per 100,000 people to 178 per 100,000 people in suburban localities, according to the researchers.
"For a rural area to double or triple the size of its jail is unheard of in urban areas," Kang-Brown said. "No one is proposing we build a larger jail in New York City. But it's common for a rural county to go from 30 beds to 70 beds. That is part of the growth."
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:28 pm to
Controlling for all things, that may be accurate. But the greater point is that we are the incarceration capital of the world, per capital, regardless of race.

Old Thread Worth Perusing
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72767 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:29 pm to
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rural whites


Muh Rural White Oppression
Posted by OneFifty
No favorite team now
Member since Aug 2012
3872 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:30 pm to
Meth is not just gonna cook itself, ya know?
Posted by beastieboys
South Jordan, UT
Member since Jan 2008
2190 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:32 pm to
Imagine the difference conservative news outlets could make by addressing these issues head on. Doesn't play as well as the black/brown boogeymen stories I suppose....sad.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:32 pm to
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Rural America faces highest incarceration rates, not black city centers


Strange. Isn't that most of Trump's voter base?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72201 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:32 pm to
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Controlling for all things, that may be accurate. But the greater point is that we are the incarceration capital of the world, per capital, regardless of race.
This. The land of the free happens to also be the land of the jailed.

If we would quit drawing lines in the sand over race and attempt to address this problem as Americans, we may actually get something done.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 4:37 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20936 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:34 pm to
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pretrial incarceration


Is a huge issue that needs to be fixed.

Way too often it's abused for financial reasons that have little to do with justice.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:34 pm to
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NBC



Fake News. And you believe it!
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72201 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:34 pm to
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Strange. Isn't that most of Trump's voter base?


Yes, and it makes sense why they voted him in.

That segment has been getting shite upon for years, but they don't have the backing or support because they aren't a privileged group.

The Trump vote was the big middle finger.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21944 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:34 pm to
How did they define "pretrial incarceration"?

Why use that modifier?

What about minorities in urban counties, or better yet minorities in city limits (since many 'urban' counties contain both city and rural areas?

Let us know when you have those numbers. Thanks in advance, champ.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124202 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:35 pm to
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the greater point is that we are the incarceration capital of the world, per capital, regardless of race.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:35 pm to
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But the greater point is that we are the incarceration capital of the world, per capital, regardless of race.



I know that is what the statistics say, but I'm not sure I trust the numbers of other countries. Regardless, our numbers are way too high. Only a select few criminals really ever need to be locked up - restitution or public corporal punishment are far better punishments than incarceration.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124202 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:35 pm to
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If we would quit drawing lines in the sand over race and attempt to address this problem as Americans, we may actually get something done.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20936 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:36 pm to
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How did they define "pretrial incarceration"?


People jailed pretrial. I.e. those that cant get out on bond/bail.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:46 pm to
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The Trump vote was the big middle finger.


So the uneducated bunch of yokels thought electing a billionaire who has made a living out of shitting on the little guy would solve their problems?

They got what they deserved.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41794 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:52 pm to
Why is high incarceration rates a "bad" thing? If we have that many people breaking the law, putting them in jail isn't bad.

We need to look at why so many people are breaking the law (culture, unemployment, etc.)
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72201 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:03 pm to
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So the uneducated bunch of yokels thought electing a billionaire who has made a living out of shitting on the little guy would solve their problems?
They took a chance voting in an outsider.

Why would they continue to vote in the same people who shite on them on the political stage for years?

HRC insulted them frequently. The Democratic Party basically told that segment of society to frick off.

The Republicans couldn't give a crap about them.

Look at it however you like.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 5:06 pm
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32123 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:04 pm to
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Rural America faces highest incarceration rates, not black city centers



This fact is racist. Therefore, it is wrong.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:07 pm to
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Look at it however you like.


Like they made a big arse mistake.
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