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re: Baylor University Survey On Religion: 'Almost No Atheists Voted For Trump'
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:28 pm to ShortyRob
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:28 pm to ShortyRob
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1. If a person believes the God of the Bible to be a completely refutable absurdity, does that make the person an "atheist"?
no... it means you reject Christianity... you still have Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Shintoism, Taoism, etc., that you haven't addressed...
and as it comes to PROVE any one of the myriad of "gods" (not just of the Bible), either actually exists or does not exist, it cannot be done... again, taking a seat on either side that aisle requires faith...
me personally i don't have much room in life for that "faith", on either side... i don't find it necessary for my morality nor my fulfillment of joy in life... i pity, honestly pity, those that do....
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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If you think I'm on a "side" here, you're not.
you a Christian? me either.... for the point of this discussion, yes, we are on the same mother fricking side, homie... get used to it...
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Good thing this doesn't describe an atheist, then
bruh, you a little slow huh? the very name "atheist", as broken down, literally means "without god... how in the frick are you debating this?
anyone identifying as an "atheist", that says they KNOW there is no god, is fricking dunce... again, it cannot, let me repeat CANNOT be proven there there is or isn't a god... it's literally impossible to prove beyond any doubt... therefore, it is beyond reason and illogical, not to mention, factually wrong, by the very definition of the word, for anyone to be "atheist"... again, to KNOW would mean you know ALL, and if you know all, you ARE god, and if you are god, you PROVE his existence, thus negations the ORIGINAL frickING PREMISE of your claim....
if you reserve even a little, in the way of, "well, maybe...", then you are NOT an atheist, despite how trendy and cool it may seem to have the moniker... this reservation would, as i said before, make you agnostic, as you don't believe there is, yet don't rule out that there may be, and even if there is, our scrawny brains wouldn't be able to figure it out anyway.....
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:44 pm to chRxis
Displaced is indeed on your side. Have fun with that.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:46 pm to chRxis
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you a Christian? me either.... for the point of this discussion, yes, we are on the same mother fricking side, homie... get used to it...
No we aren't.
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bruh, you a little slow huh? the very name "atheist", as broken down, literally means "without god... how in the frick are you debating this?
Even if I need to get some fricking crayons, I'll teach you this word.
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there absolutely, 100% for sure, is no god
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atheist
NOUN
A person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
Now, do I need to break out the crayons to show you why you don't know what you're talking about, or are you good?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:09 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Now, do I need to break out the crayons to show you why you don't know what you're talking about
break 'em out and write a letter to Merriam-Webster, since that's where i got the definition....
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No we aren't.
ok, let's clear the air... what is your stance? this is your opportunity to clarify for us... make the most of it, chief, because you are looking completely clueless...
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there absolutely, 100% for sure, is no god
this is what is ACTUALLY meant, AGAIN, by the very definition of the word (not my definition, Merriam's, keep that in mind, since they know a thing or two about words), "atheism"...
you are arguing your fricked up semantics, but when you boil it down it's pretty simple... to ascertain that there is no god(s), is "atheism"... and when broken down, logically, it's IMPOSSIBLE to actually be an "atheist"...
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:13 pm to roadGator
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Displaced is indeed on your side
who?
and i don't have a "side"...
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:15 pm to chRxis
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break 'em out and write a letter to Merriam-Webster, since that's where i got the definition....
I prefer Oxford. They're often more accurate.
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ok, let's clear the air... what is your stance? this is your opportunity to clarify for us... make the most of it, chief, because you are looking completely clueless...
I don't need to have a "stance." My interest extends as far as it impacts me, which is primarily the legislation that religion promotes. Beyond that, I really don't give a frick what any of you believe.
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this is what is ACTUALLY meant, AGAIN, by the very definition of the word
No it isn't. Check the definition I provided for you. Are the words within that definition confusing you?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:18 pm to chRxis
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who
I told you. Displaced
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i dont have a side
Really?
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i'm on the same side as you, guy
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:32 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I prefer Oxford
okay... let's use their etymology then, since they are accurate (as if M-W isn't, but that's another discussion altogether)
Late 16th century: from French athéisme, from Greek atheos, from a- ‘without’ + theos ‘god’.
without... god... without god... "atheism"...
and since we CANNOT KNOW, for sure, that the universe/existance is, in fact, "without God", it's illogical for anyone to say claim to be an "atheist"...
quote:so, you are trolling... either that or, well, i'm not gonna insult you, as you are doing a good enough job of that on your own...
My interest extends as far as it impacts me, which is primarily the legislation that religion promotes. Beyond that, I really don't give a frick what any of you believe.
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at least we agree here...
[quote] Are the words within that definition confusing you?
is reason and/or logic confusing you?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:37 pm to chRxis
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okay
Good.
Now, let's pull this apart...
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atheist
NOUN
A person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
What in that definition is not clear to you?
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so...
Nope, none of that. I expect people to be accurate. That includes those that I may agree with. When you make shitty points, or use an incorrect understanding of words to make your points, it makes it difficult for me. Be correct or be quiet.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:38 pm to roadGator
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i'm on the same side as you, guy
ah, but you conveniently left out the part where i said "about THIS discussion"...
again, i'm in the middle... you wanna be a believer in Christianity? whatever, do your thing, doesn't bother me... you wanna claim to be an "atheist"? again, whatever, doesn't affect me one way or the other... you wanna pray to the sun god Ra, while rubbing rosary beads, wearing a yarmulke, reciting Buddhist prayers? cool, whatever....
but i will tell you it's asinine and intellectually dishonest to claim to have 100% knowledge that YOUR beliefs are the only valid ones that everyone else has it wrong... maybe the other side is right, maybe they are wrong... neither you, me, or them KNOW for a fact that they are or are not...
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:40 pm to chRxis
quote:I found that my frustration levels dropped drastically when I decided to stop responding to this contrarian. He's not concerned with having an actual discussion or debate. He just wants to nitpick everything you say and make sure everyone knows that he doesn't care about your opinions or beliefs... even though he seems to care enough to keep responding to them.
chRxis
Good luck you to you
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:41 pm to FooManChoo
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I found that my frustration levels dropped drastically when I decided to stop responding to this contrarian. He's not concerned with having an actual discussion or debate. He just wants to nitpick everything you say and make sure everyone knows that he doesn't care about your opinions or beliefs... even though he seems to care enough to keep responding to them.
Good luck you to you
Of course it's easier to just pretend that you're correct.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:42 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Be correct or be quiet.
I am, and you should...
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What in that definition is not clear to you?
what part of the etymology, you know, the ROOT of the actual definition of the word, from YOUR source, at that, is not clear to YOU?
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I expect people to be accurate
as do i... i also don't expect them to be so intentionally vague, while avoiding backing up their reasoning for a rebuttal... yet here we are... me educating, you picking your nose...
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it makes it difficult for me
why is it i get the feeling that English isn't your only "difficulty"?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:44 pm to chRxis
I quoted you directly. You are on his side. He is yours. Good luck.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:48 pm to chRxis
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I am
Stating that you're correct doesn't make you correct.
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what part of the etymology, you know, the ROOT of the actual definition of the word, from YOUR source, at that, is not clear to YOU?
I already pointed out where you're incorrect in your understanding. I can do so again, if necessary.
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me educating
We haven't even brought you up to speed on a basic definition yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves...
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why is it i get the feeling
I don't care. Leave your feelings at the door, sport.
Back to it. Explain how your use of the term "atheist" coincides with the definition provided from Oxford.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:53 pm to roadGator
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I quoted you directly.
out of context, it's easy to fit narratives... Fox News hasn't taught you this yet?
again FOR THIS DISCUSSION, we are on the same side, about whatever him and a few other posters were going back and forth over... i have the same sentiment, at least from what i can remember reading of one of the post from another poster and then his subsequent follow up post...
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He is yours
he's not a bad dude, and i find that i do agree with him on a few issues politically... but i can see how he could come across to some of you that disagree with his political leaning... there are instances of him going for the low hanging fruit in his posts, forgoing explaining his rationale or logic for his line of thinking, and rather just going for the insult... but whatever... that's his prerogative....
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:56 pm to chRxis
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going for the insult
This rarely happens, at least not directly. Most here would say that I'm an a-hole, but few would agree that I ever "just go for the insult."
Posted on 9/21/17 at 11:13 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Stating that you're correct doesn't make you correct.
but i am...
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I already pointed out where you're incorrect in your understanding. I can do so again, if necessary.
I. CAN. SAY. THE. SAME. DAMN. THING., except that i used YOUR source material to prove you incorrect... you can't claim the same, so, yeah...
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I don't care. Leave your feelings at the door, sport.
i see sarcasm isn't a strong suit of yours either, evidently...
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Explain how your use of the term "atheist" coincides with the definition provided from Oxford.
okay... "atheist" subscribe to "atheism"... that much is certain and is agreed upon (and arguing this would be buttfrickingly stupid, but i'm sure you'll try)
again, use their etymology for "atheism":
Late 16th century: from French athéisme, from Greek atheos, from a- ‘without’ + theos ‘god’.
again (but i'll underline it this time, hopefully you'll get it this time around)... without... god... without god... "atheism"...
and, AGAIN, since we cannot know, for sure, that the universe/existance is, in fact, "without God", it's illogical for anyone to say claim to be an "atheist"...
and since you are so fond of Oxford, logic: The quality of being justifiable by reason, The systematic use of symbolic and mathematical techniques to determine the forms of valid deductive argument, et. al.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 11:17 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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This rarely happens
it's not your overall "thing", but it does happen a fair amount of times...
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at least not directly.
no, it's much more subdued and tongue in cheek... typically a one off comment to abruptly end a string of posters that disagree with your position, if/when you do elect to go for the insult...
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Most here would say that I'm an a-hole
you didn't vote for Trump either, so join the crowd... i saved you a seat
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few would agree that I ever "just go for the insult."
again, i'm not saying it's all the time, but for those of us that know what you are doing and the method you employ, yeah, it happens often enough... i tend to find it funny, fwiw...
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