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re: Honest Question to Libs regarding ANTIFA and Neo-Nazis

Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:18 am to
Posted by PDXDawg
Member since Aug 2013
753 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:18 am to
Because you and the pres are essentially equating a group of idiots who, yes, are sometimes violent, but in general just have a dumb political view, with Nazis - people who literally advocate for genocide. They are not the same thing. If trump wants to call out antifa that's fine but he should've picked a better time to do it. Charlottesville was not on them. And they are still not Nazis. I can't believe I have to explain this to you.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24668 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:22 am to
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Because you and the pres are essentially equating a group of idiots who, yes, are sometimes violent, but in general just have a dumb political view, with Nazis - people who literally advocate for genocide.



I suggest you go research communism, comrade.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84887 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:23 am to
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If trump wants to call out antifa that's fine but he should've picked a better time to do it.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4305 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:25 am to
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Because you and the pres are essentially equating a group of idiots who, yes, are sometimes violent, but in general just have a dumb political view, with Nazis - people who literally advocate for genocide. They are not the same thing. If trump wants to call out antifa that's fine but he should've picked a better time to do it. Charlottesville was not on them. And they are still not Nazis. I can't believe I have to explain this to you.


I guess you missed the part where ANTIFA calls for "death to facists" when referring to those who hold conservative view points? (Who aren't even facist I might add)

ANTIFA is not a political point of view. It is a group that's only purpose to suppress any view they disagree with (which is a lot), by any means necessary. How is a free speech rally a threat to ANTIFA? How is a gay conservative speaker a threat?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42774 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:54 am to
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I can't believe I have to explain this to you.


Apparently you need someone to explain commons sense stuff to you. Nazis, et al represent a minuscule part of America - they only came out and made themselves known because of the unopposed excesses of the Antifa/BLM groups under the assumption = "hell, if those guys can go out and create mayhem and wreck shite, and beat up people, why can't we? = 'murika' and all" They did not come out to Charolettesville to advance an ideology, they came out to make a scene. Antifa came out not to promote or defend an ideology, but to create violence. Both sides succeeded.

I would have rather seen Trump say "there are batshit crazy evil people on both sides" rather than "there are good people on both sides" - the POTUS statement is accurate, but the former statement is more accurate and more to the point.

For instance, I was unaware that the group which actually got the permit to hold the 'rally' in defense of the statue was associated with Nazis. Now admittedly, I was on vacation and away from the TV, but I had heard about it on the radio. IF I had been in that area with nothing else to do, I may well have gone to that park to lend my support to defending the statues - if for no other reason than to be on the ground to witness what antics is all about. I am as far from a 'nazi' as you can possibly be. I suspect there were several or many people attracted to that park for the very same reason. Certainly not everyone there was a nazi.

And that is beside the point - the group had a permit to be there. Antifa had no permit - they organized a 'protest' with the singular goal of inciting violence. To me, Antifa, as a group, is far more responsible for what happened than are the Nazis, as a group.

Now we know that some crazy person went off the rails and rammed a car into a group of people - that was not advocated by the Nazis - that was in response to what the antifa group was doing.

Both sides of this event were pieces of dog shite. Both sides should have been equally condemned for the violence that erupted. The individual who committed the murder should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

If you are going to condemn the Nazis for this, you have a lot of condemnation to hand out to BLM for the dozen assassinations of policemen under their influence, and for a lot of shed blood by the antifa group for attacking peaceful groups trying to listen to a scheduled presentation by conservative groups.

Antifa represents x1000 more of a threat to the USA than the miserable antics of the KKK and neoNazis.

"I can't believe I have to explain this to you"
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:25 am to
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Because you and the pres are essentially equating a group of idiots who, yes, are sometimes violent, but in general just have a dumb political view, with Nazis - people who literally advocate for genocide


You're confused.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:21 pm to
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Because you and the pres are essentially equating a group of idiots who, yes, are sometimes violent, but in general just have a dumb political view, with Nazis - people who literally advocate for genocide. They are not the same thing. If trump wants to call out antifa that's fine but he should've picked a better time to do it. Charlottesville was not on them. And they are still not Nazis. I can't believe I have to explain this to you



Nobody is responsible for more deaths than the left. The talley isn't even close. The left is infinitely worse than the Nazis and I can't believe that someone would have to explain that to you.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72177 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:37 pm to
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sometimes violent
They are always violent.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112601 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:51 pm to
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If trump wants to call out antifa that's fine but he should've picked a better time to do it.


When should he have done it? Name a date and give me the reason the date is just right.
Posted by Raylan70
The Holler
Member since Aug 2017
551 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:02 pm to
Nazis killed 6 million.

Communists have killed over 100 million.

You are right, it is silly to equate wanna be neo Nazis and wanna be antifa communists. Antifa are 15x worse.
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