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re: The High Cost of a Home Is Turning American Millennials Into the New Serfs

Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:18 am to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
56076 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:18 am to
Data is irrelevant. I know the truth.

ETA: they want everyone to be welders in lake Charles and Montana.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 10:21 am
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:24 am to
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Wait, you mean to tell me that Boomers both want Late Gen Xer/Millenials to make affordable decisions on housing markets and buy cheap, small houses essentially in the boonies due to suburban expansion and improvement, while at the same time chasing high power, urban/developed city/white collar jobs that typically exist near pricey/competitive housing markets?

Excuses, excuses.
Posted by GumboDave
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
850 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:47 am to
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It was a tiny 1 story shithole starter home way out in the suburbs


These don't exist in suburbs anymore. A house like this is in the hood.
Posted by GumboDave
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
850 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:54 am to
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I was born in 1990 bro.


So you are 27 years old, making this all about your generation. You are dogging your own work ethic.
Posted by GumboDave
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
850 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:04 am to
Dude, you need to shut the F up. You sound like an idiot.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:26 am to
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Ah yes, the "we have more access to information" response. I've seen that one thrown out in every one of these threads. And you're right, you do. Problem is you lack the critical thinking skills necessary to assess that information and draw your own conclusion from it. You can repeat what Wiki, Google, or someone else told you it means but, in most instances, that's all.


Ah yes the whole "access to information has diminished your critical thinking ability" argument. Because it's so much different getting your information from Encyclopedia Brittanica than from wiki

Again, if millenials have problems with critical thinking perhaps it has something to do with the education system the preceding generations created

Millenials might be the hardest working generation yet. They work long hours, don't take vacations, and do it for less money than their parents made at the same age
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 11:28 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263484 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:36 am to
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These older people are also in charge of deciding how much to pay people and they believe that $50,000 in Baton Rouge is still enough to raise a family in a decent part of town or a suburb because in 1990 they did it on that much.


That's not how it works. Pay isn't decided arbitrarily.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:39 am to
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That's not how it works. Pay isn't decided arbitrarily.



Please explain how it works then.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263484 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:42 am to
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Please explain how it works then.


It's based on the ability to recruit and retain people.

If you're not making "good" money and aren't happy with it, you're in the wrong profession (easily replaced) or wrong market.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:59 am to
No wages are set by the intersection of the supply and demand curve, or the equalibriam price of labor. Because of technology the demand curve from labor has shifted to the left lowering the price and quantity demanded. Couple that with Xers not retiring because they haven't saved and there's less jobs making less money for younger workers.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:54 pm to
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I don't know now a single person who spent 150k on their first home,

I bought my 1st home around 2012/13, 2.5 years after college, for 120k. 1580 sf, 2 bed, 2 bath.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96832 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:09 pm to
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I bought my 1st home around 2012/13, 2.5 years after college, for 120k. 1580 sf, 2 bed, 2 bath.
Let me type 120k as my value for the suburbs outside of nola

here are some listings. I picked the first 5 listings from the link LINK



Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:13 pm to
I got a decent house in a decent neighborhood in Montgomery. In a neighborhood with mostly bigger houses, but my cul-da-sac only has garden homes.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
65144 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:14 pm to
Poor Millennials. They are the only generation to ever have it hard. The rest of us just had it so easy. It's not fair. And of course all the Millennials' problems are our fault, not theirs. No, no way could anything be their fault.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263484 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:14 pm to
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No wages are set by the intersection of the supply and demand curve

Which is precisely what I said. Had you paid attention in Econ instead of googling a definition, you would have known that.

Wages are simple supply, demand except in certain situations like government Bacon-Davis jobs or some Union jobs. If your job is easily replaceable, you aren't valuable.

Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42683 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:15 pm to
I went to law school and dropped out because my summer job at the bar couldn't cover my tuition, housing, and food like it did when my parents went to school. I dropped out and now I make 70,000/yr welding in Alaska. Couldn't be happier. My fellow millennials are just lazy fricks
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:17 pm to
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It's based on the ability to recruit and retain people.

If you're not making "good" money and aren't happy with it, you're in the wrong profession (easily replaced) or wrong market.


You said nothing about supply or demand. You're also talking about the worker not the labor market so you, no, you didn't. The demand curve for workers and for labor markets are completely different so what you said above is completely irrelevant.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263484 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:19 pm to

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You said nothing about supply or demand.



Keeping the millennial stereotype alive

What do you thing the ability to recruit and retain is 100% related to? Why do you think some markets are better than others?

At least you can say you've learned something today.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96832 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Poor Millennials. They are the only generation to ever have it hard. The rest of us just had it so easy. It's not fair. And of course all the Millennials' problems are our fault, not theirs. No, no way could anything be their fault.


Dude, it is a fact you had it easier. The numbers prove it.


Just admit I had it harder than you, and I am more successful as well. Thats right, a milennial kicked your arse in life
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96832 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:24 pm to
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I went to law school and dropped out because my summer job at the bar couldn't cover my tuition, housing, and food like it did when my parents went to school. I dropped out and now I make 70,000/yr welding in Alaska. Couldn't be happier. My fellow millennials are just lazy fricks
Roger is a good dude.


But he blatantly just disregards facts when it comes to this topic. He does it consistently anytime these threads come up.


No matter what people want to say about the emotional states of millenials, it is a fact they have it worse and harder than previous generations when it comes to rising cost of goods and lower wages. That is just a simple fact that should not be argued
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