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Votto HAD a 17 game hit streak... ended today
Posted on 8/13/17 at 10:26 am
Posted on 8/13/17 at 10:26 am
Batting .462 with an obp of .627 during the streak. The numbers this guy continues to produce is crazy.
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 4:40 pm
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 10:34 am to Tigerbait337
He leaves me speechless sometimes. He's too good.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 10:40 am to Tigerbait337
This season, his OBP is .388 when he has an 0-2 count.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 10:45 am to Tigerbait337
I can't do that good in slow pitch softball
Posted on 8/13/17 at 11:09 am to reddman
quote:
This season, his OBP is .388 when he has an 0-2 count.
Carlos Gomez's OBP is .342 when he has a 0-0 count.
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 11:12 am
Posted on 8/13/17 at 11:30 am to Tigerbait337
Like I've said many times, the guy just toys with opposing pitchers.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 11:31 am to Tigerbait337
Very simply the best pure hitter in baseball right now IMHO.
Yes there are players like Trout that bring a more complete game to the table but as far as pure value in the batting box give me Votto over everybody.
Yes there are players like Trout that bring a more complete game to the table but as far as pure value in the batting box give me Votto over everybody.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 11:37 am to Tiger Ugly
quote:What does "pure hitter" even mean?
Very simply the best pure hitter in baseball right now IMHO.
quote:Votto does not give you more value at the plate than Trout.
Yes there are players like Trout that bring a more complete game to the table but as far as pure value in the batting box give me Votto over everybody.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 11:49 am to Tigerbait337
He's gonna win MVP on a 65-70 win team 
Fun fact about hit streak is that he's reached base safely at least twice in all 17 games. That's absurd.
Fun fact about hit streak is that he's reached base safely at least twice in all 17 games. That's absurd.
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:16 pm to shel311
quote:
What does "pure hitter" even mean?
Not contact, not power.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:19 pm to shel311
quote:
Votto does not give you more value at the plate than Trout
Based on....
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:20 pm to barry
stats? trout gets on base more often and hits for more power
trout is possibly having a legit top 5 season at the plate in modern baseball history
trout is possibly having a legit top 5 season at the plate in modern baseball history
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:22 pm to barry
I would also add in to that definition, a hitter that understands his goal as a hitter, is to not make, or contribute to an out.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:27 pm to WestCoastAg
You can't have a top 5 season all time and miss 45 games. The actual top five seasons are too damn good. Per game, you can, but you are just being dumb if you think he will produce a top five season ever.
Pacing for 11 War =/= 11 war
Pacing for 11 War =/= 11 war
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:28 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
thats fair
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:29 pm to WestCoastAg
Yeah, as much as I love Votto, and I have no qualms saying he should be a first ballot HOFer, Trout is having video game season. 1.167 OPS thus far, and his advanced stats are even more insane.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:44 pm to Tigerbait337
Reached base safely at least twice in 18 straight games. Record is 20 by some dude named Barry bonds
Posted on 8/13/17 at 4:39 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
And the streaks are over... classic MSB Jinx
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:30 pm to barry
Trout is no doubt has more value at the plate than Votto, who is an all-time great hitter himself. Here are some stats from baseball reference over the last 3 seasons. Not that it's not already obvious, but Trout is ridiculous this year. Can probably give Votto a slight edge for average and getting on base.
AVG Votto 11; Trout 10
6-2017 Trout .345
5-2016 Votto .326
4-2017 Votto .316
3-2016 Trout .315
2-2015 Votto .314
1-2015 Trout .299
OBP Votto 11; Trout 10
6- 2017 Trout .469
5- 2015 Votto .459
4- 2017 Votto .446
3- 2016 Trout .441
2- 2016 Votto .434
1- 2015 Trout .402
SLG Trout 13; Votto 9
6- 2017 Trout.698
5- 2017 Votto .605
4- 2015 Trout .590
3- 2016 Trout.550/2016 Votto .550
1- 2015 Votto .541
OPS Trout 12; Votto 10
6-2017 Trout 1.167
5-2017 Votto 1.051
4-2015 Votto 1.000
3-2016 Trout .991/2015 Trout .991
1-2016 Votto .985
OPS+ Trout 14; Votto 7
6-2017 Trout 213
5-2015 Trout 176
4-2015 Votto 174
3-2016 Trout 173
2-2017 Votto 170
1-2016 Votto 160
Rbat (runs from batting)
Trout 12; Votto 10
6-2016 Trout 64
5-2015 Trout 59/2015 Votto 59
3-2016 Votto 47
2-2017 Votto 44
1-2017 Trout 41
Rbat/PA
Trout 15; Votto 6
6-2017 Trout .1265
5-2016 Trout .0940
4-2015 Trout .0865
3-2017 Votto .0864
2-2015 Votto .0849
1-2016 Votto .0694
AVG Votto 11; Trout 10
6-2017 Trout .345
5-2016 Votto .326
4-2017 Votto .316
3-2016 Trout .315
2-2015 Votto .314
1-2015 Trout .299
OBP Votto 11; Trout 10
6- 2017 Trout .469
5- 2015 Votto .459
4- 2017 Votto .446
3- 2016 Trout .441
2- 2016 Votto .434
1- 2015 Trout .402
SLG Trout 13; Votto 9
6- 2017 Trout.698
5- 2017 Votto .605
4- 2015 Trout .590
3- 2016 Trout.550/2016 Votto .550
1- 2015 Votto .541
OPS Trout 12; Votto 10
6-2017 Trout 1.167
5-2017 Votto 1.051
4-2015 Votto 1.000
3-2016 Trout .991/2015 Trout .991
1-2016 Votto .985
OPS+ Trout 14; Votto 7
6-2017 Trout 213
5-2015 Trout 176
4-2015 Votto 174
3-2016 Trout 173
2-2017 Votto 170
1-2016 Votto 160
Rbat (runs from batting)
Trout 12; Votto 10
6-2016 Trout 64
5-2015 Trout 59/2015 Votto 59
3-2016 Votto 47
2-2017 Votto 44
1-2017 Trout 41
Rbat/PA
Trout 15; Votto 6
6-2017 Trout .1265
5-2016 Trout .0940
4-2015 Trout .0865
3-2017 Votto .0864
2-2015 Votto .0849
1-2016 Votto .0694
Posted on 8/13/17 at 10:33 pm to BornKjun
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BornKjun
First of all, your ranking system is dumb. Your giving points for categories by rank is silly. Doesn't factor in PA, and adds points from an ordinal ranking system.
Trout is having a bananas season but he also will play in 2/3 of it, so his rate stats while awesome, can't be compared to someone playing a whole season.
Since 2012, Trout's breakouts season.
wOBA:
Trout .418
Votto .415
That tells you all you need to know. They have both been damn good and one isn't heads and shoulders above the other. This also includes Votto's 2014 season that was shortened and he played with a bum knee.
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