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re: Would anyone have died today if the left didn't try to silence freedom of assembly?

Posted on 8/12/17 at 11:59 pm to
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 11:59 pm to
Clearly the NFL respected our right to not watch as well

I agree that this is a dangerous game and only results in further violence. They act as if Neo-Nazism is a new concept and they haven't been protesting and assembling for decades.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38513 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:00 am to
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unlawful assembly,


Their stay was granted by a federal court. In fact, the only ones who didn't have a proper permit was the leftist activists.

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incite violence


True. You cannot incite violence in the first amendment. But resorting back to the OP; had the left or shown up, who would violence been invited against?

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The issue here is you attempting to blame the actions of the aggressor on the people who are also using their constitutional rights. As if those speech rights only exist selectively and applied relativistically. As if free speech means free from counter speech


Perfect ten on the dismount!

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See, to take an example, you were called a racist. In response you threatened violence


Oh. And I'll do it again. There is only a certain amount of this shite people can take. You get bludgeoned by fascists like you long enough, people tend to stand up and fight back.

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Since if they just shut up and let you say what you wanted to say without vocal interference, you wouldn't be forced to punch them


Another perfect dismount. You're on a roll.

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And it is why James Alex likely faces second degree murder charges and the counter-protestors that merely stood by before being plowed into will not


Second degree? I thought he was a NAZI that planned all this out?

You just ousted yourself as a fascist. I'd lay low for a little while if I were you.

Mr. bone huffer!
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18640 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:01 am to
Peaceful assembly or not, the self proclaimed Nazis and KKK members represent an idea that is the exact opposite of American ideals: slavery and death. So, I'm not going to defend anything that they do. The same goes for this antifa group. They create chaos for the sake of it. They can go the way of the Nazis. As far as the statue, the Confederacy lost 152 years ago. It's time to move on and leave it in history.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:05 am to
The unite the right rally had a permit....Until it was declared an unlawful assembly by the authorities. From there they are all on even footing. Spats of violence erupted, but only one person plowed through with a car.

It is you trying to make a game of victim blaming.

That is advocating those that wish to exercise their own constitutional rights to stay silent and if not, they get what is coming to them.

As you continue to do now by trying to defend your threat of violence against a poster ( ) because they were mean to you and disagreed with you.
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 12:06 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38513 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:08 am to
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Peaceful assembly or not, the self proclaimed Nazis and KKK members represent an idea that is the exact opposite of American ideals: slavery and death


No one disagrees here. At least none that I've seen so far. Try to keep up.

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. So, I'm not going to defend anything that they do.


Again, taking someone's Bill of Rights away is a dangerous ground. Infinitely more dangerous from what transpired today. Think about it.

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They create chaos for the sake of it.


And the left did exactly that by showing up today

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They can go the way of the Nazis


Yet, the left is the ones acting like NAZIs. 1984- type shite.

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As far as the statue, the Confederacy lost 152 years ago


And I don't know anyone in my life that gives a shite.

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It's time to move on and leave it in history.


I agree.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38513 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:13 am to
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The unite the right rally had a permit....Until it was declared an unlawful assembly by the authorities


Yeah. Until the federal court overruled them? Are you this disingenuous or just plain retarded?

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From there they are all on even footing


No not at all. One has a stay order from a federal court. The other has their dick in their hand.

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Spats of violence erupted, but only one person plowed through with a car.


Exactly. Violence occurred with a group of people that is already known for destruction of private property and acts of violence. What happened the night before? Before this group of people were bussed in?

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It is you trying to make a game of victim blaming.


Nah. It's really you knighting hard for a bunch of socialists, attempting to silence your fellow Americans, that requires a level of mental gymnastics unseen before because you're a big fat pussy.

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That is advocating those that wish to exercise their own constitutional rights to stay silent and if not, they get what is coming to them.


Wasn't even the point of the OP. But keep spinning, retard.

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As you continue to do now by trying to defend your threat of violence against a poster ( ) because they were mean to you and disagreed with you.



And I will continue to do it against ANTIFA and NAZIs like yourself . You want to tag along with pettifogger?
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18640 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:19 am to
I don't want to say take away their 1st amendment rights, but I just can't understand why anyone would willingly reprsent Nazis or the KKK.

If I implied that I don't think the left are just as guilty, I did not mean to. They are just as guilty for spreading violence and hate.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38513 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:38 am to
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I don't want to say take away their 1st amendment rights, but I just can't understand why anyone would willingly reprsent Nazis or the KKK


Me either. Just as I can't understand why people would support the New Black Panthers or Planned Parenthood. But to take away someone's rights to believe or speak freely is a dangerous ground. History is flooded with facts that it doesn't end well.

Like what was stated on page 2, I believe. Ignore the fricking idiots and it goes away.

Showing up with clubs, bike locks, and mace doesn't do anything but perpetuate the problem and adds fuel to the fire.

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If I implied that I don't think the left are just as guilty, I did not mean to. They are just as guilty for spreading violence and hate


No man. It's all good. But it's already been said that this is the fringe of both sides. Both taking then to extreme. The fact that the police department couldn't separate the two groups, stand their ground, and do what the NOPD does best (crowd control), makes it even worse.

Both sides are responsible for this bullshite. One more than the other. Our president said it beautifully today.
Posted by Abadeebadaba
LSU fan @ FSU
Member since Sep 2010
4983 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:39 am to
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Practice more and come back when you are better at strawman building.

Not quite sure that you know what a strawman means. But, I would never have to practice to debate you. Just pointing out you being a douche. I will say this, the sheeple are dancing tonight, no doubt.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:33 am to
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And I'm still waiting for the answer. But you can't give it to me because you are to weak, dense or intellectually dishonest to answer.


To answer: no, if they hadnt shown up there would be no tragedy. There also wouldnt if there had been no original protest. We can travel down that rabbit hole til we reach primordial sludge if you want but it doesnt change the one decision to disregard human life.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:59 am to
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Exactly. Violence occurred with a group of people that is already known for destruction of private property and acts of violence. What happened the night before? Before this group of people were bussed in?


Well.. I mean we have a few recent examples of white nationalist terrorists. KKK, Dylan Roof, guy from today, walking through campus with torches, etc.

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Nah. It's really you knighting hard for a bunch of socialists, attempting to silence your fellow Americans, that requires a level of mental gymnastics unseen before because you're a big fat pussy


Honestly.. yours is one of the best melts I have ever seen. Ever. People will be talking about your self destruction years from now

I wish those fellow americans you spoke of were aborted instead of born. We'd be better off
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 2:01 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38513 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:06 am to
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Well.. I mean we have a few recent examples of white nationalist terrorists. KKK, Dylan Roof, guy from today, walking through campus with torches, etc.


And we have much more from the left (Bernie supporter in Portland, the gay night club, Steve Scalise, BLM shooting cops, ANTIFA on a monthly basis.) you're a fig man.

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Honestly.. yours is one of the best melts I have ever seen. Ever. People will be talking about your self destruction years from now


My interaction in this thread has been completely calm in demeanor. I can't help if you're a socialist bitch that got his arse beat in high school.

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I wish those fellow americans you spoke of were aborted instead of born. We'd be better of


Your whore liberal mother already aborted you. But she snuck you home in her purse. And now you're here. Poor guy.
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 2:07 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:09 am to
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And we shave much more from the left (Bernie supporter in Portland, the gay night club, Steve Scalise, BLM shooting cops, ANTIFA on a monthly basis.) you're a fig man.


And? One act of violence doesn't justify another. What were you saying just a bit ago.. they should have just ignored it? Sweet melt though. Bookmarking this and i'll show my kids one day how low IQ southerners can be

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My interaction in this thread has been completely calm in demeanor. I can't help if you're a socialist bitch that got his arse beat in high school.

Your whore liberal mother already aborted you. But she snuck you home in her purse. And now you're here. Poor guy.





This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 2:10 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38513 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:10 am to
Nice gif, baw.

But I got to tell you. She sucks a dick like she plays a flute.
Posted by kool_keef
IL
Member since Dec 2014
16 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:25 am to
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Nah. It's really you knighting hard for a bunch of socialists, attempting to silence your fellow Americans




Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38513 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:28 am to
They are American, idiot. No matter how much we dislike them.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38513 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:55 am to
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To answer: no, if they hadnt shown up there would be no tragedy


Thanks for the honesty, Ebb. It took 11 pages for a liberal to admit it. I applaud you. I really really do. and you didn't accuse anyone of being a racist by recognizing it.

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but it doesnt change the one decision to disregard human life.



And no one is trying to say any differently. Today was, indeed, a tragedy. And this country needs to come together!
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24643 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 3:13 am to
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To answer: no, if they hadnt shown up there would be no tragedy


Thanks for the honesty, Ebb. It took 11 pages for a liberal to admit it. I applaud you. I really really do. and you didn't accuse anyone of being a racist by recognizing it.


The most pathetic "gotcha" I've ever seen.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38513 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 3:17 am to
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olddawg26


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The most pathetic "poster" I've ever seen.




I fixed it.

Another long night at Chili's? You and Bulletthead haven't been around all day.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24643 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 3:20 am to
Well at least you're admitting we're not the same poster. I don't think I've ever been in a chilis either
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