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re: DAT 8/2: Rays (Pruitt) @ Astros (Keuchel), 7:10 CDT
Posted on 8/2/17 at 12:57 pm to LSUBoo
Posted on 8/2/17 at 12:57 pm to LSUBoo
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They might end up stuck with his salary, but those are two teams that can afford it.
Yes, they can. But keep in mind... the new luxury tax of the CBA goes into effect next year. I think teams like NYY and BoSox will be a bit more cautious on taking on new big salaries because it will limit what they can do in the off season.
But they certainly will claim him just to block him from going to the Astros. They know that Detroit will pull him off waivers before they let him go for nothing. Once he is put on waivers and pulled back, he can't be put back on this season.
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Posted on 8/2/17 at 12:59 pm to WestCoastAg
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the tigers are probably hoping the astros can put a claim in and if they cant, then theyll just hold onto him and wait until the winter to move him
Nah, they hope no one puts a claim in, so they are free to negotiate with the Astros.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:01 pm to Jwho77
I would think they almost have to if they need to shut down LMJ. That would give Det more leverage though. I just don't see that deal being made.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:02 pm to High C
I think 2011-13 proved that Luhnow isn't going to be goaded by the media or fans into doing something outside his framework.
On the Jonah Keri podcast he said something along the lines of "trust the math." And the math pretty clearly shows that the deadline trades don't move the needle too much; with the best route to a ring being multiple playoff appearances. And that's why he was comfortable doing doing much when whatever he was working on fell through.
On the Jonah Keri podcast he said something along the lines of "trust the math." And the math pretty clearly shows that the deadline trades don't move the needle too much; with the best route to a ring being multiple playoff appearances. And that's why he was comfortable doing doing much when whatever he was working on fell through.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:04 pm to Floating Change Up
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But keep in mind... the new luxury tax of the CBA goes into effect next year.
This
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:06 pm to davy jones
They don't? The Cubs don't win it without Chapman and zobrist.
The royals don't make the alcs much less win the title in 15' without cueto. The Indians don't get where they did without milller last year.
Most of the winners make a significant move.
The royals don't make the alcs much less win the title in 15' without cueto. The Indians don't get where they did without milller last year.
Most of the winners make a significant move.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:08 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:and most of the teams who do make a move end up losing. its almost like the playoffs are the peak example of randomness in sports
Most of the winners make a significant move.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:12 pm to WestCoastAg
Only one team can win each year. You have to get there. An elite bullpen is nearly always a must unless you have Bumgarner in his prime.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:29 pm to Tiger Ryno
Deadline acquisitions don't change the WS projections much. Especially for a team that has nearly locked up a division. If you're the type of person who doesn't buy into projection systems then this is probably meaningless to you. But the Astros FO certainly has their own internal projection systems that they look at for all manners of things.
Projections very from site to site, but they all seem to have the Dodgers making the greatest improvement. Going from something like 24% to 26%. Not insignificant, but not the colossal change many view it as. I'm disappointed no larger additions were made, but I think the doom and gloom routine is overblown.
Projections very from site to site, but they all seem to have the Dodgers making the greatest improvement. Going from something like 24% to 26%. Not insignificant, but not the colossal change many view it as. I'm disappointed no larger additions were made, but I think the doom and gloom routine is overblown.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:47 pm to davy jones
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I'm disappointed no larger additions were made, but I think the doom and gloom routine is overblown.
This is a perfect description of how I feel about it.
A barometer I like to use in predicting playoff outcomes is how many consecutive losses does a team endure during the season.
So far this season, the Astros have lost 3 games in a row 3 times and lost 2 games in a row 3 times. The point is, this team does not get dominated very often. The only sweep has been from CLE. The only teams to beat the Astros 2 games in a row: CLE, KC, TEX and DET. KC and CLE have both done it twice.
Considering how non-threatening the SP and RP has been for the past 2 months, they have managed to remain a dominant team.
All that said, CLE, KC, and NYY all worry me in the playoffs. The BoSox don't worry me too much -- I think the Astros team is better suited for Fenway than the Red Sox.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:53 pm to Floating Change Up
I'm praying for complete health. Would love to have at least the final 3 weeks of the season with a full boat of healthy players.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:55 pm to Tiger Ryno
You are talking way to rational the last few days. I agree 100 percent.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:56 pm to davy jones
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Deadline acquisitions don't change the WS projections much. Especially for a team that has nearly locked up a division. If you're the type of person who doesn't buy into projection systems then this is probably meaningless to you. But the Astros FO certainly has their own internal projection systems that they look at for all manners of things.
Imo they can completely change a team it's just difficult to tell at the outset which one will.
It was a pretty widely held consensus that the Rangers won the deadline in the AL last year. One year later they let Beltran walk and traded away both lucroy and jeffress.
Cleveland couldn't finish out a deal with lucroy and didn't add a sp when both their well regarded 2 and 3 were down but they made the most significant addition in Miller but didn't even make him the closer
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:57 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:exactly. and only one team can win in the most random postseason in all of sport. the best way to ensure a world series title is to give yourself the best opportunity to get into the playoffs year after year. it doesnt make sense to gut your prospect pool, when it has been proven time and time again that they are the most valuable assets in baseball because of how little they cost, to increase your odds in one or two years when you are more likely to lose in that one or two years than you are to win
Only one team can win each year.
and even then, it sounds like luhnow had something in place with the orioles until their stupid owner decided he didnt want to sell at the last minute. cant blame luhnow for that
i support him drawing a line in the sand and not going above it because he did the right thing
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:03 pm to WestCoastAg
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only one team can win in the most random postseason in all of sport.
I guess the NHL isn't being considered
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:11 pm to WestCoastAg
I'm disappointed we didn't make some more impactful moves but whatever. Over it now.
I thought for all the world Fisher was going to be traded. Ultimately he stays put and gets to play for us and I'm excited about that. Same for Martes. He's inconsistent as hell right now but you see flashes of how good his stuff is.
Imagine at this time next year
CF Springer
DH Fisher
2B Altuve
SS Correa
LF Reddick
1B Yuli
C McCann/Gattis
RF Tucker
3B Bregman
UT Marwin
*Although I somewhat expext Gattis to be traded in the off season*
I thought for all the world Fisher was going to be traded. Ultimately he stays put and gets to play for us and I'm excited about that. Same for Martes. He's inconsistent as hell right now but you see flashes of how good his stuff is.
Imagine at this time next year
CF Springer
DH Fisher
2B Altuve
SS Correa
LF Reddick
1B Yuli
C McCann/Gattis
RF Tucker
3B Bregman
UT Marwin
*Although I somewhat expext Gattis to be traded in the off season*
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:13 pm to Adam Banks
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It was a pretty widely held consensus that the Rangers won the deadline in the AL last year.
I personally felt the Yankees won the deadline last year and this year. Last year, they somehow emptied their roster of dead weight, loaded up on top-tier talent in the minors... and still walked away with a stronger MLB roster after the deadline.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:22 pm to Floating Change Up
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personally felt the Yankees won the deadline last year and this year. L
I was speaking in regards to the buyers last year. Especially in retrospect they are the unquestioned winners overall of the 2016 deadline
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:30 pm to Floating Change Up
They don't hang banners for deadline championships.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:35 pm to Tiger Ryno
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They don't hang banners for deadline championships.
This is a funny statement coming from you considering some of your comments just 2 days ago.
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