re: Orgeron's trajectory since Ole Miss is super positive

Look. I'm riding yaw's airboat all the way to the end, but we don't have to pretend yaw is Pete carroll.

I don't think he's going to tank or elevate LSU. Probably a lot of 9-4/10-3

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He's now managed two top tier programs in crisis situations (if you consider USC top tier which is debatable).

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USC has been every bit as much a top tier program as LSU, you could say even more than LSU. Both are trying to get back to where they were 10 years ago.

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Both are trying to get back to where they were 10 years ago.

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Best program money could buy.

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You realistic* asswipes

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Fixed it for you

I'm just saying that Gundy would win bigger at LSU than he has at his current school. Just like Nick and Les did, and as Orgeron will do too. LSU has many competitive advantages compared to other schools

Will Orgeron do better than he did at Ole Miss? Hell yeah. But will he win big? We shall see

Saban @ Michigan State
6-5-1
6-6
7-5
6-6
9-2

Saban @ LSU
8-4
10-3
8-5
13-1
9-3

Les @ Oklahoma State
4-7
8-5
9-4
7-5

Les @ LSU
11-2
11-2
12-2
8-5
9-4
11-2
Etc

Ed @ Ole Miss
3-8
4-8
3-9

Ed @ USC
6-2

Ed @ LSU
6-2

Fedora and Gundy have won conference championships? Plural? Gundy has one Big 12 championship and that was the year he lost at home to a 6-7 Iowa State team to cost himself the opportunity to get skull fricked in New Orleans by our tigers. If he had won that game, we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now. Anyway...good times.

You asked proven head coaches (plural) to do what. Win conference championships (plural because they each won one).

And Oklahoma State lost on the road.

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plural because they each won one

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Fedora won a conference title? Where? Not at UNC I don't believe.

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And Oklahoma State lost on the road

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Home. Road. Whatever. They still lost and I'm still a little bitter about it.

I didn't read a word after that sentence

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he has one of the worst resumes in big 6 history.

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Only if you deliberately blow his record way out of context as you always do and then at the same time claim you aren't a Coach O hater like you always do too.

Anyway, the reason Coach O's record isn't spectacular is like Coach Charlie Strong, Coach O agreed to take on the task of rebuilding the Ole Miss football program after it had been decimated via bad recruiting for years by his predecessor Coach Cutcliffe. As the Ole Miss administration had for several years tried to get Coach Cutcliffe to improve his recruiting. Thus, when the inevitable finally happened and Coach Cutcliffe had his first losing season, unlike most coaches that had been at a university for some time with a winning record, Coach Cutcliffe was fired the very first season it happened because the Ole Miss administration had been trying for years to get him to improve his recruiting before it was finally too late, and they also knew that Coach Cutcliffe would never be able to rebuild the program not the way he had been recruiting and so they fired him citing poor recruiting as the primary cause for termination and hired Coach O to rebuild the program.

So Coach O signed a 4 years contract to rebuild the team and ended up inheriting Coach Cutcliffe's piss poor players and for three years like Coach Cutcliffe and like Coach Charlie Strong at Texas, Coach O couldn't win with those piss poor players either. No one could, not in the SEC.
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However, Coach O recruited very well, which is something his haters and detractors will never acknowledge. Anyway, after three years and with one year still remaining on his contract Coach O was fired by Ole Miss even though they had promised him they wouldn't fire him before his four-year contract was up. Then Coach Houston Nutt replaced Coach O and then immediately started winning for three straight years with the players that Coach O had recruited and then after three years when those players had all graduated or were no longer eligible, Coach Houston Nutt suddenly couldn't with his own players and ended up being fired too.

Nonetheless, had Ole Miss not pulled the rug out from under Coach O and gave him his fourth and final year of his contract as they had promised they would do, Coach O would have been able to win with his own players and in all probability would still be the head coach at Ole Miss today.

Meanwhile, the Coach O haters love to distort Coach O's record way out of context to intentionally vilify him and demonize him because they are all Miles' butt lickers. So if you don't look closely at the situation, you will never find out the truth because the Miles' butt lickers don't want you to know the truth.