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Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:44 am
Posted by DelU249
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Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:45 am to
Arya has made her fair share of dumb decisions.
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:45 am to
and then rickon's dumb arse didn't run zig zag to avoid ramsay's arrow
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6798 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:46 am to
Jon Snow is a lot like Ned. The scene with little finger in the crypts really drove it home for me in the last episode. No guile at all.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:48 am to
it took you 7 seasons to figure that out?

Little finger says this in Season 1
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85328 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:49 am to
Telling Cercei you know the truth was about pride. Dumbass. Robb "falling in love" as a 17 year old is a joke. Cat is the dumbest of all, but she isn't a Stark really. Look at her sister ffs. Sansa is by far the worst. She should be dead, imo.
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:54 am to
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the starks are incredibly stupid people
They're not stupid. They just want to make things right without playing the stupid game. They always seem to dominate in fair fights but lose to cheaters.
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:44 am to
FLAWED HEROS YOU SAY?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:51 am to
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Ned made many poor decisions that can't be explained away by honor.


Ned was politically naïve. His "Honor" was his tragic flaw, but when the true test came, he caved. He should have told the absolute truth at the beheading and let the chips fall where they may.

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Robb did countless stupid things that resulted in his death.


He was too young and thrust into a position of responsibility too soon. Had Ned lived 10 more years or so, Robb would have been a fantastic Warden of the North. A natural born leader, like Crazy Horse or Nathan Bedford Forrest.

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Cat pretty much started the entire war when she took tyrion.


Cat and Cersei are more alike than different. Difference is - Cat had Hoster and then Ned as balancing forces in her life. Cersei had Jaime (before his recent maturing process), Tywin and then Robert.

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Sansa was obsessed with Joffrey even though it was clear he was a sadistic shite.


Stupid girl is growing up quickly though (in the show - keep in mind, we're way off the path of the novels with this story).

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Bran may not be as stupid but we'll see if there are consequences to his crossing the wall.


Dude - you can't see there is a non-temporal pull for him to be the 3-Eyed Crow? He's always been the 3-Eyed Crow and always will be. Crossing the wall doesn't fall into the realm of "bad decision" - it just sort of falls into the category of crossing the wall.

And Jon is showing the best traits of Ned and Robb. And he's a Stark, just not THE Stark. Related to that - I'm trying to figure out who takes over Winterfell -

Rickon dead in the show (and maybe that's a preview of his cul-du-sac in the books ) - if that bears out in the novels, Jon - while technically legitimized is highly likely going to die fighting the WWs/Others/Night King as TPTWP (or part of it - the Dragon has 3 Heads after all). If not, he's technically a Targ. Sansa is female.

They would have to go with another Stark line - of which we know nothing. Probably not even a Winterfell line if there is one or use matrilineal rules to make Sansa the Stark in Winterfell.

Assuming the army of the dead doesn't kill them all...



This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 10:55 am
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:03 am to
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:12 am to
OP with a blazing hot take.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:51 am to
I'd say naive more than stupid.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 12:51 pm to
Agree. I have never liked the Starks, with that said, if Rhaegar and Layanna are really his John Snow's parents, and the theory is true that they were in love and in a full rebellion against Aerys, then I can see why Ned has kept them stupid for the most part. That would have put Robert as an enemy to the Starks (which would include the Lannisters) and at the time the Targaryens.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:45 pm to
Rickon's only stupid mistake was being too small to care for himself.


And not zig-zagging
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 5:06 pm to
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Bran may not be as stupid but we'll see if there are consequences to his crossing the wall.


Bran not listening to the 3-eyed raven dude, got the raven and Hodor killed.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 4:05 pm to
They're foils of the Robert and the Lannisters.

Ned was never meant to rule or lead Brandon was Robert minus the "superhuman" strength. It's why Ned loved him.

He was a soldier, trained to lead soldiers, he and Benjen were never meant to be Wardens of the North but bannermen.

Sansa was a naive girl, she got over it in a few months.

Bran is just a lad. The only training he has is from Jojen and Bloodraven which got cut short.
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