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iPhone 8 - average price $1100 - wtf?

Posted on 7/21/17 at 10:39 am
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9469 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 10:39 am
JP Morgan projects this as average price - so there will be some below and above. The currently most expensive model 7plus 256gb is $969.

Y'all ready?

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Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 10:42 am to
and the 7S will be the same price tiers as current iPhones.


Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9469 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 10:48 am to
quote:

7S


You're saying they will introduce a 7s at lower price point?
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 10:52 am to
quote:

introduce a 7s at lower price point?


Lower price point than the 8/Pro/X whatever the premium one is going to be.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62437 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 10:55 am to
It sounds like it's artificially high pricing because they just can't get the components they need to make 200 million phones a year yet. What I want to know is will they keep a separate super premium phone model going forward, or is it just for this year while they work on ramping up supply for the new phones?

What unique features will the iPhone X have that will require me paying twice as much? Will the iPhone 8 next year basically be this year's iPhone X? If so I guess that won't be bad. But if they are permanently creating a "Pro" line of phones that cost almost twice as much, that seems like a risky strategy. Especially if the features you're getting for twice as much pretty much get the iPhone back in step with Android phones, until they bring out their new models and pull ahead again.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16275 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

What I want to know is will they keep a separate super premium phone model going forward, or is it just for this year while they work on ramping up supply for the new phones?


Think this is a single year thing to test the waters with it. Switching screen type and changes to home button/fingerprint scanner. Don't think they have anywhere near the supply like they normally do, so spitting out the 7S versions along with a high price as well to try to relieve demand somewhat.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22385 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 5:14 pm to
I don't get it. I thought the s version is the premium version.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16275 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

I don't get it. I thought the s version is the premium version.


The S version has been the off cycle yearly upgrade.

Like the 6 to the 6s was basically the same phone with better internals just a year different release date with the 6s being newer. Plus has been the bigger size version so the 6 and the 6s both had plus versions.

Last year was the 7 and the 7 plus, this year you will have the 7s and 7s plus, but you will also have a X or pro version that will be similar in size to the 7s, but with a screen size of the 7s plus. This new "premium" version will be the first year they do this with this design.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22385 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 7:25 pm to
I don't get what they are making premium though. I thought they were all supposed to be premium. The s use to just have a few extra software upgrade with a few upgrades to the hardware. Are they diminishing the quality of the regular ones? I don't like Apple phones but they are quality pieces.

Btw, I'm legit asking for curiosity not to bash.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 7:27 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62437 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:17 pm to
The problem is that they are trying to shift to OLED screens and some other "new" components. You need to be able to make 200 million units a year when you're talking about the iPhone and they can't make that many of the new type of phone this year.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 10:30 pm to
I leanrned a new phrase this week. "Diseconomies of scale"
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
43760 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:22 am to
This is why poor people will never break the cycle.
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
21693 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:34 am to
And you think they give a frick about poors? Maybe they will create a wic voucher available model.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51994 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:56 am to
They're trying to put the fingerprint scanner underneath the glass and are having a hard time
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16275 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:48 am to
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They're trying to put the fingerprint scanner underneath the glass and are having a hard time


I think they gave up on that for this year. Probably retina or some other way.
Posted by wizziko
New Jersey Nets Fan
Member since Jan 2006
35881 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:50 am to
They should just put it on the back (not like Samsung) and get on with life
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51994 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:13 am to
I just got the 7 plus for work and I love it.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
33149 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:46 am to
quote:

This is why poor people will never break the cycle


Take it to the poli board
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7289 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 4:52 pm to
with RED coming out with a phone for like $1500, they probably think they can justify it since other companies without the track record are doing it.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83393 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

I don't get what they are making premium though. I thought they were all supposed to be premium. The s use to just have a few extra software upgrade with a few upgrades to the hardware. Are they diminishing the quality of the regular ones? I don't like Apple phones but they are quality pieces.

Btw, I'm legit asking for curiosity not to bash.


I think you're missing the point.

The "s" isn't premium (anymore than every Apple product is premium). It's just the next interim yearly upgrade that doesn't really include a major overhaul. It generally keeps the same form factor and improves the internals to keep up with the year long gap since the last phone.

Some people like the "S" cycle because they claim the glitches are smoothed out by that point. It's basically set so that you can be an early adopter and get latest/greatest from Apple, or you can wait until "S" and get the version that theoretically may be a bit more reliable.

I'm hoping to get an 8, but if there are huge delays past October I may have to go 7s
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