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re: Youth Baseball Thread: the "What Are We Getting Ourselves Into" edition.

Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:14 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:14 am to
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Holly shite balls. Late bloomer refers to puberty. 7?? Really??



So kids can develop later, like at 8 or 9?

Wow
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30873 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:18 am to
now if ya'll wanna see a sure sign of parental insanity....

go to louisiana travel ball 24-7 on facebook and check out the "tryout ad" for a 6u fall ball team.......


and yes the same thing goes on in every other sport....
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:21 am to
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Why is it that baseball get singled out? Girls are in dance, or cheer, or volleyball all your round. Some kids play musical instruments all year long. Almost every young baseball player who excels also excel in other sports. And most of them do play other sports until time in high school does not permit it. The bottom line is it almost every D1 baseball player play travel ball. Sorry if your kid is a Timmy Lupus.


First off sack, my kids are grown. I come from a coached perspective to this matter.

Maybe you are a little out of touch.

Kids are choosing 1 sport earlier than ever before. Lacrosse and extended seasons of travel baseball have cut the numbers in youth football so drastically in Louisville, KY, that we are combining 2-3 schools to field whole teams.

I read an article that said kids in the warm climate states in travel baseball play year round, and as many as 120 fricking games. Now Einmotherfrickingstein...you tell me what other sports they play?

Keep your daughter playing year round skin flute, and stick to commenting on shite you actually know about instead of TRYING to be funny.



This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 8:22 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43814 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:22 am to
I know someone whose kid was on a 13 year old travel team.
He played the entire season with the team and right before the World Series they played in the team cut him and picked up another 13 year old to replace him so they had a better chance at World Series.

It gets very competitive and kids change teams a lot. If they find a better kid they will bump your kid.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30873 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:25 am to
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He played the entire season with the team and right before the World Series they played in the team cut him and picked up another 13 year old to replace him so they had a better chance at World Series


was he actually cut or was he told he wouldn't play much if at all - there are limited additions they can make - seems crazy a coach would "cut" but 99% of teams in a world series event add players.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30873 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:26 am to
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Kids are choosing 1 sport earlier than ever before.


This is mainly due to year round work outs by every sport..
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:29 am to
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This is mainly due to year round work outs by every sport..


For football it is concussion/injury related that is driving them away, along with the popularity of lacrosse.

Year round type baseball only exploded within the past 10 years here in Louisville.


Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3651 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:29 am to
A large majority of division 1 athletes (and even professional athletes) played multiple sports in high school. It's because they were the best athletes in the area. Usually when you get travel baseball kids or parents who talk about how they only play baseball because they love it so much, it's actually because they just aren't athletic enough to pick up something else and be good at it.
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8146 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:33 am to
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Tommy John surgery at 19 comes from overuse at 12-13-14.


I would also add that the lack of properly stretching (before pitching), poor mechanics and arm care (recovery workout after pitching) also adds to the increase of TJ surgery.

As for playing 1 sport only, don't do it. College recruiters love kids who play multiple sports because it gives them a better scope of their athleticism.

Now playing travel ball isn't bad at all if you're with the right coach/team.

If you don't want to play year round, check into lessons such as hitting and/or pitching. It's usually done once a week for an hour and not that expensive.

Pitching lessons should include proper way to warm up, arm conditioning and strengthening and not throwing max velocity, but more about working on location, arm location (angle), landing, weight distribution and things like that.


Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30873 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:35 am to
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large majority of division 1 athletes (and even professional athletes) played multiple sports in high school. It's because they were the best athletes in the area. Usually when you get travel baseball kids or parents who talk about how they only play baseball because they love it so much, it's actually because they just aren't athletic enough to pick up something else and be good at it.


number is getting smaller every year..... why...... every sport is a year round time gobbler - and kids playing multiple sports don't have time to be a kid... and again - baseball is no worse or no better than any other competitive youth endeavor now a days.. see football with 7 on 7 all summer..... aau hoops all summer.... club soccer club volley ball... it's all crazy
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30873 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:37 am to
and coaches are equally to blame for kids playing 1 sport if not much more than parents or the kids..

I heard several college coaches tell baseball players that played football "we will not sign you in the early period, if you are playing football we will sign you after football"

Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
25128 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:39 am to
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People seem to take the word "travel" too seriously.


Yep. I live in Atlanta (Decatur actually) and "travel" ball is basically just playing teams in maybe a 30 mile radius in the metro area.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36606 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:48 am to
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People seem to take the word "travel" too seriously. My oldest plays on one of the traction teams and we played one tourney in Houston, one in Lake Charles and two in Lafayette. The rest were considered within the Baton Rouge area except for the last one which is Disney. With traction now operating Cypress mounds, they are going to attempt to bring back quality league ball. It will take a few years but hopefully they can get it done. Most parents desire quality league with the option of a few tournaments scattered throughout ending sometime in mid June.


How old is your son? Is that over the course of a year? Does he play during the week or just on weekends? How many tournaments does he play a year?
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12582 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:56 am to
They will play a total of 15 tournaments starting in late February and ending next week in Disney.. most are done by end of June except those that qualify for Disney and the '12's who are in Cooperstown.. out of those 15.. 5 were outside Baton Rouge area with two being Lafayette.. traction doesn't do year round and they stress kids playing other sports.
He only plays weekends with 1-2 practices during the week starting in late January. He plays football in the fall, basketball in winter with a little overlap when baseball practice begins.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36606 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:03 am to
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They will play a total of 15 tournaments starting in late February and ending next week in Disney.. most are done by end of June except those that qualify for Disney and the '12's who are in Cooperstown.. out of those 15.. 5 were outside Baton Rouge area with two being Lafayette.. traction doesn't do year round and they stress kids playing other sports. He only plays weekends with 1-2 practices during the week starting in late January. He plays football in the fall, basketball in winter with a little overlap when baseball practice begins.


That's a healthy schedule, but not over the top IMHO.

He's not playing midweek, and he's getting practice time to work on fundamentals. That's about the same time frame we had back in the day; except we had league play with a few tournies thrown in here or there on the weekends. We'd finish with a big tourney on July 4th weekend which were geared for the families to have fun at the beach.

Good luck.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12582 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:14 am to
The reality is...the only reason he plays "travel" is because of the demise of quality league ball. He's a good player but by no means do we have some delusions of grandeur regarding his ability. He wants to play in high school which means he needs to play and with a lack of league play, we are stuck..
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30873 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:28 am to
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The reality is...the only reason he plays "travel" is because of the demise of quality league ball. He's a good player but by no means do we have some delusions of grandeur regarding his ability. He wants to play in high school which means he needs to play and with a lack of league play, we are stuck..


this.....rings very familiar..
Posted by ConservativeBamaFan
Tuscaloosa Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
1248 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:48 am to
We have played a lot baseball when my boys were young. We traveled a lot and it cost a lot. I've always believed that multiple sports is the way to go. Now that they are older one plays baseball one played basketball and both play football. The year around sport I feel burns them out.
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2271 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:56 am to
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The reality is...the only reason he plays "travel" is because of the demise of quality league ball. He's a good player but by no means do we have some delusions of grandeur regarding his ability. He wants to play in high school which means he needs to play and with a lack of league play, we are stuck..



This IS the reality in most of South Louisiana. There are very few "Rec Leagues" left that are competitive. Most parents that want their son/daughter (which have decent ability) to play competitive baseball/softball are forced into some sort of "travel ball."
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14859 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:01 am to
I always hear coaches talk about kids playing multiple sports but then hear them complain when a kid can't participate the year round or pre-season workouts do to another sport.
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