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Italy may seek "nuclear option" in dealing with migrants
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:17 pm
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there was just a long discussion about this crisis on Al Jazeera. it sounds like there are some real issues among all of the EU members. paths were discussed from Italy refusing to pay its EU contributions to countries around Italy closing their borders
also of note, these are primarily migrants from Africa, so it's not even the "Syrian" migrants that made all the headlines last year
this is a possible major inflection point with the EU, generally.
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Mattia Toaldo, a senior analyst at the European Council on Foreign Relations, told The Times: 'If migrants continue to arrive and Italy decides to give them papers to cross borders and leave Italy it would be a nuclear option.
'Italians have lost any hope of getting help from the EU and may say, 'If you won't make it a common challenge, we will.'
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Mr Giro believes that Italy can exploit European Council Directive 2001/55, developed after the Balkans conflict to give temporary European entry permits to a large number of displaced people.
If Italy does pursue this course of action, support for the Schengen scheme, which allows all EU citizens to travel freely across the Continent, may be in jeopardy.
there was just a long discussion about this crisis on Al Jazeera. it sounds like there are some real issues among all of the EU members. paths were discussed from Italy refusing to pay its EU contributions to countries around Italy closing their borders
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It may also seriously escalate tensions with neighbouring France and Austria, which have used dogs and the threat of armoured vehicles to push back migrants who try to enter by that route previously.
also of note, these are primarily migrants from Africa, so it's not even the "Syrian" migrants that made all the headlines last year
this is a possible major inflection point with the EU, generally.
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
It was only a matter of time. Good for the Italians.
If there is strife with Austria on this, I'd expect the Austrians, Hungarians, and the Poles to come to an agreement with the Italians on some diversion away from them or some form of escort through their territories to neighboring European nations. Poles have accepted any of them so I doubt they'll let them pass through even escorted, but I think they'll work with this group.
If there is strife with Austria on this, I'd expect the Austrians, Hungarians, and the Poles to come to an agreement with the Italians on some diversion away from them or some form of escort through their territories to neighboring European nations. Poles have accepted any of them so I doubt they'll let them pass through even escorted, but I think they'll work with this group.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
You read steve sailer baw?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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also of note, these are primarily migrants from Africa, so it's not even the "Syrian" migrants that made all the headlines last year
Well damn, there goes one virtue-signaling argument.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
The godfather 4: the migrant crisis
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
Has Merkel tried calling the Italians racist yet?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
Italian navy should just start catching the migrant boats offshore and towing them back towards the African coast. Once word gets around that migrant boats are being turned around and towed back to Africa, it won't be as appealing for more to try to cross the Mediterranean to begin with.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
I've said this before, but the migrant crisis is an extension of the failure of the post-war refugee system put in place. It has been teetering on the edge of failure since 1991, when there were numerous civil wars on the outskirts of Europe (in the Balkans and North Africa, not to mention the the Rwandan war and a civil war in Afghanistan) which the refugee system did not deal with appropriately. For example, many refugees from conflicts in 1990s still do not have official paperwork, and have no incentive to return to their countries and have every incentive to move toward countries where at least they can get documents. The Iranian situation with Afghanis is a prime example, with 1 million refugees having official paperwork, but 2 million still without paperwork.
The wars of the early 2000s exacerbated the situation in the 90s, which finally reached a head in the Syrian migrant crisis. Regardless, until there is a refugee system in place that works we will be papering over the cracks.
The wars of the early 2000s exacerbated the situation in the 90s, which finally reached a head in the Syrian migrant crisis. Regardless, until there is a refugee system in place that works we will be papering over the cracks.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If Italy does pursue this course of action, support for the Schengen scheme, which allows all EU citizens to travel freely across the Continent, may be in jeopardy
Time to speed up Brexit
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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also of note, these are primarily migrants from Africa, so it's not even the "Syrian" migrants that made all the headlines last year
Posted on 7/18/17 at 5:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:This has been the case since the "refugee crisis" began. It was just an excuse to pipe more people into Europe. If you remember the stories from a few years ago about all of the "do-gooders" using their yachts, etc. to rescue migrants and deliver them to Europe, the African origin was always the case.
also of note, these are primarily migrants from Africa, so it's not even the "Syrian" migrants that made all the headlines last year
Look, we like to talk about "globalists" and their evil plans and all, and it seems like InfoWars paranoia, but there really is something to the concerted effort to pipe as many members of hostile, non-assimilating cultures into Europe. You can form your own opinion as to why this is being done, but it clearly is intentional and not the result of people wanting to escape "war-torn" areas.
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