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re: What is a acceptable record for Coach Ed Orgeron this year?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:25 am to Kedwards1
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:25 am to Kedwards1
quote:This is if aunt had nuts stuff and could be said for 95% of LSU losses in past 20yrs. In fact practically every play where each man wins his battle and executes should be a TD (incl the hated toss power), or conversely a stop/turnover on D.
if ___ doesn't ____
When players aren't collectively sharp and miss numerous executions vs a injury decimated foe, it's on the coach, just like it was on Miles.
Put the damn goalpost back where it belongs.
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:03 am to Mayhawman
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This is if aunt had nuts stuff and could be said for 95% of LSU losses in past 20yrs. In fact practically every play where each man wins his battle and executes should be a TD (incl the hated toss power), or conversely a stop/turnover on D.
When players aren't collectively sharp and miss numerous executions vs a injury decimated foe, it's on the coach, just like it was on Miles.
Put the damn goalpost back where it belongs.
exactly. using that logic the head coach isnt to blame for anything. the ciaches arent out there missing blocks and causing plays to fail.
it's being pretty clear that all those unacceptable things during Miles tenure became acceptable as soon as miles was fired.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:12 am to Mayhawman
Gosh this thead has devolved.
It think the point of the thread, although I would have worded it differently----"what are our expectations this year no matter who the HC is"
To me LSU is and should be a program that competes for championships. That's if Saban, Les, O or a reincarnated and blessed by the hand of God, Knute Rockne is coach. It should not matter the name of the HC.
From 2001 thru the 1/9 debacle a fair case can be made LSU was the best program in the nation. Yeah we lost to Cam Newton and Tebow. And Urban had Florida rolling and USC was great for part of it. But LSU was imho the best during that period.
There has been drop off since 1/9 in terms of wins, and talent (and depth of talent) esp at QB. But we still have loads of talent in the program and talent that has found a home in the NFL.
If any are willing to accept a program that is an Outback/Cap One Bowl program, I believe they are selling LSU short.
We didn't win titles SEC or the old BCS EVERY year between 2001 and 1/9 but we were damn good. And can and should be again.
Regardless of the positions staked out previously in this thead shouldn't we all want that level of success again and expect it?
It think the point of the thread, although I would have worded it differently----"what are our expectations this year no matter who the HC is"
To me LSU is and should be a program that competes for championships. That's if Saban, Les, O or a reincarnated and blessed by the hand of God, Knute Rockne is coach. It should not matter the name of the HC.
From 2001 thru the 1/9 debacle a fair case can be made LSU was the best program in the nation. Yeah we lost to Cam Newton and Tebow. And Urban had Florida rolling and USC was great for part of it. But LSU was imho the best during that period.
There has been drop off since 1/9 in terms of wins, and talent (and depth of talent) esp at QB. But we still have loads of talent in the program and talent that has found a home in the NFL.
If any are willing to accept a program that is an Outback/Cap One Bowl program, I believe they are selling LSU short.
We didn't win titles SEC or the old BCS EVERY year between 2001 and 1/9 but we were damn good. And can and should be again.
Regardless of the positions staked out previously in this thead shouldn't we all want that level of success again and expect it?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:38 am to Mayhawman
I don't care who the coach was against Florida, it wasn't coaching that lost that game. I get it, you are an O hater..good for you. Just for the record I was not an O fan, but I'll damn sure give him a chance.
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