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re: Hamburg Protests: Why is CNN adament that they are due to Trump's arrival?

Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Why is CNN adament that they are due to Trump's arrival?
You know why.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:54 pm to
It's still pathetic and a lie
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
10293 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:55 pm to
The reason he had cheers in Poland today was because the Polish government bused in supporters like they did in the Red old days:

Newsweek

quote:

Donald Trump didn’t exactly earn a unanimously warm welcome during his first trip to Europe as president in May. To ensure that his second visit starts off on a far more positive note this week, considerable measures are being taken, including those borrowed straight from the Communist Party playbook. Ahead of making his way to Germany for the start of the G-20 summit Friday, Trump will land in Poland Wednesday and is guaranteed a rapturous reception: Supportive crowds literally will be bused in to cheer for him.
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:57 pm to
You believe that shite? It's already been confirmed that people were bussed in for crowd control purposes, and the crowd response was incrediblely positive and natural, not manufactured
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

TigerDoc
Poland one of the few european countries that likes republican presidents more than democrats. It really isn't surprising that trump was warmly welcomed there. They worship ronald reagan there.

It's a country with great people and bright politics.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:03 pm to
Of course it's warm and natural when one's political supporters are there, just like it's warm and nautural when Trump holds a rally in Tennessee or other right-leaning locale. He doesn't do rallies in places unfavorable to him since he's become President - also to draw favorable crowds and few protestors.

Here it is from a right-wing source if you like:

quote:

Poland is pulling out all the stops for President Trump, who is scheduled to arrive in the eastern European country late Wednesday. The Polish government plans to bus in Trump supporters to make sure he feels welcomed by a loud, cheerful crowd at Krasinski Square in Warsaw, according to a Polish media report Wednesday. Officials promised Trump he would be warmly received if he accepted the country's invitation to stop by before heading to the G-20 Summit in Hamburg, Germany, later this week.


Washington Examiner
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 2:04 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:06 pm to
No doubt they like us. They were with US as part of the "coalition of the willing" in '03 when most of Western Europe wasn't willing to join us in Iraq (although in retrospect... but I digress. ). It's probably one of the more favorable places for Trump in Europe these days.

But... in that Pew Poll, Poles (say that 3 times fast) gave Obama a confidence rating of >50% and Trump a 23%. There's not much that European countries agree on, but not liking Trump is one of them.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 2:09 pm
Posted by 225bred
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Member since Jun 2011
20399 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:08 pm to
Watching Fox News now
Holy shite, Shep Smith/Toddy is so fricking pathetic. This guy deserves to have his arse beat every day that he wakes up.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4520 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:10 pm to
FYI: CNN article just says G20 protesters. Not watching CNN so don't know what they said there.

LINK
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
144198 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:11 pm to
Progressive nations don't like a person that's not progressive. I'm shocked.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
144198 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

BREAKING NEWS: Anti-Globalization protesters at G20 summit.


From Fox News Twitter and they have a video showing the water hosing.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
10293 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:21 pm to
That's part of it, but Trump's also been shaking down NATO for change. Older Poles and Eastern Europeans remember what it was like to be a satellite nation of the Soviet Union and see what Putin is doing in Ukraine and Crimea. They like American Presidents that stand strong with them like Reagan did.

Here's a Reagan statue they put up in Warsaw a few years ago.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13611 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

just like it's warm and nautural when Trump holds a rally in Tennessee or other right-leaning locale. He doesn't do rallies in places unfavorable to him

PLACES CAMPAIGNED:
CLINTON: 37 states plus Washington, D.C. and Puerto Rico
TRUMP: 45 states plus Washington, D.C. and Mexico and Scotland

I didn't know there were 45 right leaning states!

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
144198 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

been shaking down NATO for change


Well, it's about time they meet their obligations. No other President was able to get them to do it with apologies and acting like besties.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
10293 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:26 pm to
You cut off the rest of the sentence:

quote:

He doesn't do rallies in places unfavorable to him since he's become President


Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
144198 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:28 pm to
You think he should do a "rally" in a location filled with people so deranged that they (many) want him dead?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
10293 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:30 pm to
There's an argument to be made for that, but the way he's been so public about it and refusing to back article 5 until today wasn't going to win him public support with the Polish people. Maybe this visit will help. We'll see.

quote:

You think he should do a "rally" in a location filled with people so deranged that they (many) want him dead?


No, of course not. It's just fair to point out the P.R. machinations because the rally is meant to give off a message that the Polish people are generally positive about him when they're not.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
144198 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:31 pm to
Article 5 is great. Are the other nations meeting their obligations in the balance of the other articles?

It's your money too.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4520 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

Well, it's about time they meet their obligations.


Well NATO members' spending obligations don't even begin until 2024, so you can't accurately claim that they are failing in that regard

NATO members didn't agree to get their arse in gear until Russia invaded Crimea, and signed the agreement in 2014.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59980 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:34 pm to
Not directed at you, particularly, TigerDoc, but I have no idea why people are so concerned about what the rest of the world thinks about us.

I would bet nobody on this board checks with anybody else when they decide to get married, buy a house, buy a car or do anything else. Yet so many from the left want to check on the pulse of the rest of the world and do everything that might get their approval. It amazes me.
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