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Alan Dershowitz: Trump’s bluff: Perfectly legal 'Corrupt motive' is a slippery slope

Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:15 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:15 am
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Alan Dershowitz: Trump’s bluff: Perfectly legal

Now that President Trump has tweeted that he didn’t tape James Comey, the anti-Trump zealots are accusing him of witness intimidation.

This is most the absurd of the many absurd charges leveled against Trump by those out to get him without regard to the law.

Trump’s bluff was calculated to get Comey to tell the truth. How can that be witness intimidation? If it were, Abraham Lincoln would have gone to prison rather than the White House. As a young lawyer, he, too, bluffed a witness into telling the truth.
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Alan Dershowitz: 'Corrupt motive' is a slippery slope as the criterion for prosecuting a president

My academic and political colleagues who insist that President Trump has obstructed justice point to his allegedly "corrupt motive" in firing former FBI Director James Comey after telling him that he "hoped" he would end his investigation of retired Gen. Mike Flynn.

They concede – as Comey himself did – that the president has the constitutional authority to fire the director and to order him to end (or start) any investigation, just as he has the authority to pardon anyone being investigated. But they argue that these constitutionally authorized innocent acts become criminal if the president was "corruptly motivated."

This is a dangerous argument that no civil libertarian should be pressing. Nor would they be pressing it if the shoe were on the other foot.

If Hillary Clinton had been elected and Republicans were investigating her for asking the attorney general to describe the investigation of her as a "matter" rather than a "case," my colleagues would be arguing against an expansive view of existing criminal statutes, as they did when Republicans were demanding that she be locked up for espionage. The same would be true if Bill Clinton or former Attorney General Loretta Lynch were being investigated for his visit to her when she was investigating his wife's misuse of email servers.

Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77436 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:21 am to
Whoa...that is way too much logic and facts for the libtards to handle in one post...why you so mean?
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64792 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:21 am to
Wishing and hoping


Wish in one hand and you know the rest.


Trump the Intimidator.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68529 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:24 am to
Cops bluff crooks into admissions all the time
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35072 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:30 am to
The Dems are chasing their tales trying to harass Trump...while His Policy is moving forward. They 'cry wolf' at every instance of a Trump 'troll', and the end result that their cries become powerless.

Looks like we'll be getting a new Supreme Court Justice in short order; more screams of 'wolf' from the Dems...another 'Gorsuch' Justice.
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:31 am to
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Alan Dershowitz: Trump’s bluff: Perfectly legal 'Corrupt motive' is a slippery slope

I guess the lib's have a different meaning for the word "Hope"
"Hope & Change" makes more sense now... Hope is a corrupt motive' and is a slippery slope. Pretty much sums up Barry's presidency.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:33 am to
Poor Alan Dershowitz, pretending to know more about the law than the likes of constitutional scholars John Cusack and Rob Reiner.
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:36 am to
Joe & Mika should read this
Posted by FandIgod
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2017
217 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:05 am to
5DDD Galactic Infinity Chess! MAGA!
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23079 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:06 am to
Forthcoming response article from Jeffrey Toobin on salon.com - "BUT WATERGATE"
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99458 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 2:48 pm to
Alan "Red Pill" Dershowitz
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 2:49 pm to
If Trump's bluff worked, then Trump lied about 2 major questions. It's that simple.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:06 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:42 pm to
Dershowitz is such an attention whore, and please remember he helped get OJ off and freed Klaus von Bulow, both murderers guilty as sin. That should go without saying, but if you read the first article, where he compares himself to Lincoln and relates their respective bluffs concerning witnesses they got to recant on the stand, he fails to relate that to Comey. He starts out by saying "@real’s bluff was calculated to get Comey to tell the truth," and he later implies Comey was being "mendacious," but he fails to explain why any of that was a concern, much less how Comey contradicted himself "by spilling his guts" like one of their witnesses breaking down on the stand.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 3:44 pm
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:46 pm to
Becareful because Goldennugget isn't going to be happy that Dershowitz (a Jew) has once again stood up to back Trump. This is going to throw Goldennugget into a tailspin.
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:09 pm to
I like how the bar for Trump has been lowered so much, you guys now applaud when his actions are deemed "technically legal".

"Welp! It's douch-ey. It's irresponsible. It's a huge waste of time. But hey! It's not illegal. Hurrayyy!! MAGA!! Trump is the best "

This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:17 pm to
It's pretty simple if they want to get Trump for obstruction, they have to find bribery, intimidation, kickbacks, self dealing or any other kind of WC crimes as those are self explanatory as far as intent goes which is the main element of obstruction.

Trump will never be impeached for obstruction when the only thing that happened was using his constitutional power to fire an FBI director after he refused to clarify an ongoing narrative playing out in the public square that he started himself.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21988 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:52 pm to
Heck it wasn't even much of a bluff.


"James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!"

But it sure did call Comey out as a leaker which has been proved true.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 5:53 pm
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