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re: Will Hess easily touch 100mph
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:02 pm to JustSmokin
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:02 pm to JustSmokin
quote:Yeah, this is the answer.
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So you're saying as a starter he'll hold back some on his fastballs?
Pretty much. Starters can't give max effort on every pitch and expect to go 7-8 innings. In critical spots they'll go max effort.
But the bigger question will be: how seriously will they push to move him to a starting role?
We don't normally see pitchers specifically used as closers in college ball, the coaches try to put their best guys at starting spots, and let the big leagues sort things out later. But Hess's situation isn't the usual one: he's gone from erratic starter with above average stuff, to elite closer with elite stuff. It's like they hit the lottery with this move, and I don't know that you fiddle with it. He'd be a first round pick right now if you leave him alone, he could drop if you screw him up making him try to pitch 7+ innings a game.
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:07 pm to NamariTiger
He will throw 99-100 mph in a few years when his life becomes "athlete", instead of "student athlete".
In MLB His focus 10 months of the year will be SAC, mechanics, coaching, competition,etc.
If he continues to develop his breaking ball, and can pick up an effective 3rd pitch, he has top 10 pick written all over him.
He won't take long to make the big show either
In MLB His focus 10 months of the year will be SAC, mechanics, coaching, competition,etc.
If he continues to develop his breaking ball, and can pick up an effective 3rd pitch, he has top 10 pick written all over him.
He won't take long to make the big show either
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:33 pm to fierysnowman
Strength and size has a lot to do with it, but it is all interrelated with mechanics. The biggest strongest guy can have shitty mechanics and not throw hard and a little runt can have the best mechanics and not throw hard its a combination of the two.
But its also genetics. You need to have enough external rotation or "roadway" to be able to speed up the ball to a higher velocity while also having the mechanics to slow the arm speed down to protect your arm. If you look at pictures of truly elite throwers the amount that their shoulder externally rotates, which allows their arm to "lay back" is incredible. That is what separates the 92-93 MPH guys to the 98-99 guys
But its also genetics. You need to have enough external rotation or "roadway" to be able to speed up the ball to a higher velocity while also having the mechanics to slow the arm speed down to protect your arm. If you look at pictures of truly elite throwers the amount that their shoulder externally rotates, which allows their arm to "lay back" is incredible. That is what separates the 92-93 MPH guys to the 98-99 guys
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:37 pm to NamariTiger
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Seriously didn't know. I always hear scouts and so called experts saying more speed comes with increased size. I know mechanics are the majority of pitching but you're telling me with just mechanics it doesn't matter what size you are you can pitch that fast ?
Size matters but not in the way you think. Its more length than bulk. Long arms and long legs are key.
Thats why Tim Lincecum was a freak. He could throw 100+ at 5'10. Most people have to be at least 6'3-6'4.
Think of all the flame throwers you know. All long bodied generally
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:48 pm to I-H8-BAMA
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:56 pm to NamariTiger
i don't understand where you put easily and 100 mph in the same sentence while referring to pitching.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:00 pm to IronMike1775
Strength and length matter with velo because it creates power and extension. Some guys have God given gifts to do freaky things. Chapman is absolutely huge and very strong but his scapula flexibility is unheard of. The man can almost touch his two elbows behind his back.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:07 pm to Scoob
Doubtful at this stage of his career..don't wanna even see him try.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:09 pm to NamariTiger
YouTube Tim Lincecum in his prime and tell me if it's size.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:26 pm to BK785
Lincecum was an exception. And he destroyed his arm in the process. Size has a lot to do with it but its length not bulk
Eta: i mean the guy went from throwing 100+ to topping out in at 92 now. Generally sitting around 88. He went from a Randy Johnson fastball to a Jared poche fastball.
That delivery aint healthy
Eta: i mean the guy went from throwing 100+ to topping out in at 92 now. Generally sitting around 88. He went from a Randy Johnson fastball to a Jared poche fastball.
That delivery aint healthy
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:44 pm to NamariTiger
Biggest factor is shoulder flexibility. Creates a sort of slingshot mechanism
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:24 pm to Comp721
Boots Garland used to claim he could increase a pitchers velocity by 5mph just by teaching them how to run properly. They guy was so full of himself. RIP Boots
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:31 pm to I-H8-BAMA
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always wanted to see a video explaining how Chapman throws 103-105
Ask and ye shall receive (YouTube)
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:36 pm to dbonnett
Pretty sure it was supposed to be phrased as a question and forgot the question mark.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 4:00 pm to JAB528
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In his prime, Tim lincecum touched 100 and he weighed about 175 soaking wet with boots on. It's all mechanics
Ron Guidry was clocked at 98 and he weighed 160 lbs......about the same as Bartolo Colon and CC Sabathia who weigh 300+.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 5:37 pm to I-H8-BAMA
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I've always wanted to see a video explaining how Chapman throws 103-105. That's crazy.
Long-arse Caribbean dude fingers.
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